Should the Orioles claim RHP Chris Ellis from TB? (Update: Claimed, Valdez DFA'd)

[eddie83]

Just now, Moose Milligan said:

Well that's certainly another way to look at it.  

At this point I would pretty much claim any arm available. We have a ton of guys we could let go with no concern. 

[Moose Milligan]

1 minute ago, eddie83 said:

At this point I would pretty much claim any arm available. We have a ton of guys we could let go with no concern. 

Totally agree, I'd claim anyone/everyone, too.  I was more commenting on the lack of ability for us to develop guys compared to a system like Tampa's.  

[eddie83]

34 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Totally agree, I'd claim anyone/everyone, too.  I was more commenting on the lack of ability for us to develop guys compared to a system like Tampa's.  

I’m sure a huge part is their player acquisition skill. 
 

It’s truly remarkable how they have built that team. 

[Moose Milligan]

3 minutes ago, eddie83 said:

I’m sure a huge part is their player acquisition skill. 
 

It’s truly remarkable how they have built that team. 

They do acquire good players, but I think they also do a better job developing them, too.  

 

[crowmst3k!]

4 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't think our coaching is better than theirs.

Agreed. But, there's always the off chance that something was missed, not addressed in their org. This would be a cheap pickup, might turn into something.

[SteveA]

2 hours ago, eddie83 said:

I’m sure a huge part is their player acquisition skill. 
 

It’s truly remarkable how they have built that team. 

In the past several weeks alone, Tampa has picked up Evan Phillips, Shawn Armstrong and Davis Hess.

They sure know how to acquire talent!!!

[Frobby]

41 minutes ago, SteveA said:

In the past several weeks alone, Tampa has picked up Evan Phillips, Shawn Armstrong and Davis Hess.

They sure know how to acquire talent!!!

If they fix any of them, I’ll be pissed!

[Just Regular]

What was that Bear Bryant line?   Something like he'd take his and beat yours, and then he'd take yours and beat his.

I suppose if I wanted to max the cynicism, I'd wonder that if say some Orioles analyst had some discovery/insight from heat maps or whatever around how to get Wander Franco out, would that tactic even get deployment authorization in 2021?

Of course on the other side of that coin, they probably just have their pitchers running the ball into the middle of the line of scrimmage on our lineup.

[sportsfan8703]

Finally Elias has awoken to work the waiver wire. Weakest 40 man in MLB obviously. 

[7Mo]

16 hours ago, crowmst3k! said:

Agreed. But, there's always the off chance that something was missed, not addressed in their org. This would be a cheap pickup, might turn into something.

I think the best thing we have available is opportunity. Tampa can't give games for a pitcher to develop. 

We have games to give a pitcher to allow time to develop. 

[Frobby]

10 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Finally Elias has awoken to work the waiver wire. Weakest 40 man in MLB obviously. 

I’d say the top is the weakest.   Not necessarily the bottom, which is where the waiver transactions happen.   

[NCRaven]

Elias has been working the waiver wire all year.  He didn't just suddenly start doing it this week.

 

[LookinUp]

On 8/19/2021 at 11:09 AM, vab said:

Claim anybody from Tampa

 

18 hours ago, SteveA said:

In the past several weeks alone, Tampa has picked up Evan Phillips, Shawn Armstrong and Davis Hess.

They sure know how to acquire talent!!!

I'd generally look to claim guys from bad orgs rather than good ones. It's less likely that the Dodgers and Rays are missing out on talent than the O's and Diamondbacks. So it's not surprising to me that I've been reading about three top teams (White Sox, Dodgers and Rays) picking up our cast aways. I wonder if that says something about their assessment of our player development?

[interloper]

We have claimed him and DFA'd Valdez. 

[Frobby]

Just now, interloper said:

We have claimed him and DFA'd Valdez. 

Well, we just gained 25 mph.