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I was recalling this morning how weams and I would be frantically collecting information to post in the Draft Tracker thread, for two or three years that I remember.  I could in no way do that now.  I

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I don’t understand the “Jones or Bust” crowd here, as if he’s a guaranteed sure thing perennial All Star going forward. Chances are good that he’ll be a productive major league player, but it’s also l

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Johnson seems like just a 1st rate kid on top of being a great hitter. Hopefully the Orioles didn't miss on him because he was short and probably a 2nd baseman. I'll root for him.

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1 minute ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

A lot of good write ups here I thought. Goes to Comp round too. After reading this, not sure why you would even consider Jace Jung 1-7 or so. https://jacksondels.medium.com/2022-mlb-mock-draft-v1-555a41e8a484

And everyone knows my opinion on underslot😂😂😂 but why not Dylan Lesko if you must do that? 

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4 hours ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

Also has us taking Jud Fabian in later round!

That would be ideal. I’d imagine Fabian would sign for less than the $3 million we were willing to offer him last year. I’d view Fabian as a direct replacement for Stowers in our system. 
 

Our post draft top 10 would look like,

1. GR

2. Gunnar

3. Druw Jones

4. Hall

5. Westburg 

6. Stowers

7. Cowser

8. Kjerstad

9. Mayo

10. Fabian

That’s a darn good top 10 and probably still good enough for #1 overall in MLB. 

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3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Just curious why you guys are so high on Fabian?  Dude strikes out a lot. Hit .249 in 21 and .239 in 22.  I suppose he's very talented but sounds very risky too.

Yea I agree.  I would prefer they take a shot at a high upside HS prospect or one of the pitchers who were injured in 2022.

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10 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Just curious why you guys are so high on Fabian?  Dude strikes out a lot. Hit .249 in 21 and .239 in 22.  I suppose he's very talented but sounds very risky too.

I believe some of Fabian's darling-dom is he kind of skipped 12th grade or something and profiles well in age-based models.   But I think he exchanged the demographic advantage saying No Thanks to the Red Sox last year, and now is the rare "real prospect" with FOUR seasons of SEC data.

The low batting average and lots of SEC tools remind me somewhat of John Rhodes last year, or even Jordan Westburg previously.

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10 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Yea I agree.  I would prefer they take a shot at a high upside HS prospect or one of the pitchers who were injured in 2022.

This mock had them taking Owen Miller a HS RHP at 33.  That's a risky high upside pick. I don't see it but who knows.

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2 minutes ago, Just Regular said:

I believe some of Fabian's darling-dom is he kind of skipped 12th grade or something and profiles well in age-based models.   But I think he exchanged the demographic advantage saying No Thanks to the Red Sox last year, and now is the rare "real prospect" with FOUR seasons of SEC data.

The low batting average and lots of SEC tools remind me somewhat of John Rhodes last year, or even Jordan Westburg previously.

Yes, but Rhodes had an outstanding freshman year and Westburg was great on the Cape and his average wasn't in that territory.  Fabian might be good but two years of sub .250 in college is scary.

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5 hours ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

This also states we are scouting Jones & Holiday heavy, which is very promising, like the pedigree and think that matters a lot. https://www.prospectslive.com/prospects-live/2022-mlb-mock-draft-n78w7-st9r4

This mock left out Dylan Lesko assuming he'll hold out for a higher slot and go to Vanderbilt.  If he falls to the comp round, he's the guy, then go under-slot in later picks and throw some money his way.  (It would be so LOLMets if they took Lesko and couldn't sign him too!)  Lots of interesting arms in the 32-50 range as well.  And some recent draft darlng/helium guys (Wagner/Jones) at 52/53.

Agreed on the preference for an arm at 1.33 and 2.42 pick over Fabian - at least from the crew that mock still has on the board.  BPA/not drafting for need/etc/etc, but tie-breaker in the same tier of player goes to the SP for me.

 

Interesting comment/hedge(?) in the 1.1 write-up:  Sig Mejdal purportedly loves the skillset Lee brings to the field.

 

And there's a comment on what I assumed about Kumar as well (and ever moreso after his second outing):  

Rocker is surging up draft boards once again after an overwhelmingly positive first appearance for Try-City this past weekend.

 

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SIAP, but I found Elijah Green's senior stats on MaxPreps

25 G

.462/.592/1.000 for a 1.592 OPS 

103 PA

78 AB

40 R

36 H

32 RBI

11 2B

2 3B

9 HR

21 BB

21 K

15 SB

 

How accurate these are, I'm not sure, but since they're a national team I would guess they're fairly accurate. I think Green or Jones have to the be the pick, based on upside alone. I guess you could make a case for Holliday, but I'll be disappointed if they go underslot when these top tier talents are on the board. 

 

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2 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:

That would be ideal. I’d imagine Fabian would sign for less than the $3 million we were willing to offer him last year. I’d view Fabian as a direct replacement for Stowers in our system. 
 

Our post draft top 10 would look like,

1. GR

2. Gunnar

3. Druw Jones

4. Hall

5. Westburg 

6. Stowers

7. Cowser

8. Kjerstad

9. Mayo

10. Fabian

That’s a darn good top 10 and probably still good enough for #1 overall in MLB. 

This is another reason why I think Elias will go BPA at #1.  He wants to maintain his high farm ranking.  If he chooses Berry and he is only the O's 7th best prospect and not a top 100 prospect, how much does the O's farm ranking drop after losing Adley?  I'm hoping for Druw, but I can see arguments for selecting Green and Termarr.

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    • Tony-OH
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By Tony-OH · Posted

      I think anyone on this board deserves more respect than a comment like that. That's like saying, "Nobody cares what you have to say" on a board that is specifically designed to allow people to have their say.  Nobody here thinks Elias is reading this board and going, "Oh, Tony doesn't like that so I better stat playing Kjerstad!" lol
    • Malike
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By Malike · Posted

      I get it, like I said, I personally think is a temporary move for a bench player while Hays is on the IL and not a trial run for a really long look at him yet. If the argument is O'Hearn isn't good out there, I'll buy that every day all day, I will also say that O'Hearn, right now, is a much more valuable bat to have in the lineup at this point in the season.
    • Malike
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By Malike · Posted

      As disappointing as Santander seems right now, he was worse last year through March/April, we all know what he did after that. I think it's too early to call him dead weight.
    • Tony-OH
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By Tony-OH · Posted

      This is a team that runs O'Hearn out to RF. If they are willing to do that, they should be willing to run Kjerstad out there because they are not really all that different defensively in RF. Kjerstad is not a great defender, but he's not some Trumbo like liability out there either (though Trumbo threw way better than Kjerstad). I did this once before, but I showed how you can rotate guys around to give him semi-regular PAs. Player day off: Santander - Kjerstad plays RF O'Hearn - Kjerstad DH Mountcastle - O'Hearn to 1B, Kjerstad to RF Mullins day off - Cowser to CF, Kjersatd to LF (live with the defense that day) Cowser day off - Kjerstad to LF Rutschman day off after catching too often - MCann catch, Kjerstad DH Even if you don't want Kjerstad in LF, that's still 4 other starters you can give a day off to and Kjerstad hit left-handers ok, so it's not like he can't play against Lefties.  They can find a way to get him 3-4 starts and PH in another 1-2 easily. If they don't want to do that, and it's ok if they have a different opinion of him, then send him back down and have him wait his turn and bring up Stowers or go get Hicks and let them play once a week.
    • interloper
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By interloper · Posted

      Just my take: I think they just called up the best player available. He's here to be a pinch-hitter or a Santander sub for a short period of time if Hyde wants to utilize him like that. If he doesn't, that's his prerogative, but Elias has given him the best hitter available on the farm to use as he sees fit. Once Hays is back, Kjerstad will go back down to get regular ABs, just like Stowers did, just like Cowser did. They won't let him linger on the bench too much longer. Kjerstad, Stowers, Norby, and Mayo are all incredible depth pieces, future ML starters, and excellent trade chips. Perhaps Elias didn't get any offers he liked in the offseason, so I think the plan is to hold them all as depth until July, and then swing something big. At least, that's what I hope happens.  Another potential is that perhaps Elias could have dealt one or two for pitching in the offseason, but is holding his cards for now just in case he needs to trade for another big name SP. Like if Bradish doesn't work out, or Burnes gets hurt. Something like that.  Like most of their decisions, Elias/Sig seem to like to kick the can down the road as long as possible. 
    • OsFanSinceThe80s
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By OsFanSinceThe80s · Posted

      The organization definitely likes Kjerstad's bat, but there is a logjam at 1B/RF/DH that makes it tough for him to crack the lineup. I agree with Tony that there is enough wiggle room to give the other regulars a rest day during the week opening up room for Kjerstad to start 2 to 3 times. Rutschman complicates this as well because of his bat on the days he's not catching there's a good chance he's playing DH (like tonight).
    • Moose Milligan
      Is Hyde/Sigbot burying another prospect?

      By Moose Milligan · Posted

      I agree with this, but it's apparent they brought him up to be the 26th man. I've never been a big Kjerstad fan so I'm not really upset about it but I also agree with you...if you're going to bring someone up that's ranked like he is, you play them. If it were me, I'd be on the horn trying to trade him for a great bullpen arm.

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