Umpire Scorecard Thread

[ShoelesJoe]

6 hours ago, Orioles4Life21 said:

Are umpires worse than they always have been or does every broadcast now having a box that we can use to judge every call off of just skewing it in our minds?

I think umpires right now are better at their jobs than at any time in the past. And I think a lot of that improvement has to do with replay. 20-30 years ago there were a dozen or more umps working MLB games who were as bad (and even more arrogant) as Angel Hernandez is today. 

[Satyr3206]

52 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

I think umpires right now are better at their jobs than at any time in the past. And I think a lot of that improvement has to do with replay. 20-30 years ago there were a dozen or more umps working MLB games who were as bad (and even more arrogant) as Angel Hernandez is today. 

More arrogant than Hernandez? Joe West maybe. I need a memory refresher.

[Otter]

6 minutes ago, Satyr3206 said:

More arrogant than Hernandez? Joe West maybe. I need a memory refresher.

Ken Kaiser, Garcia....

[DrungoHazewood]

1 hour ago, ShoelesJoe said:

I think umpires right now are better at their jobs than at any time in the past. And I think a lot of that improvement has to do with replay. 20-30 years ago there were a dozen or more umps working MLB games who were as bad (and even more arrogant) as Angel Hernandez is today. 

Before the great purge in the 1990s* the umps more-or-less did whatever they wanted. They'd interview an ump and he'd say things like "the strike zone is what I say the strike zone is." There would be talk of reforming things and the umps and their union basically just said no. We're the umpires, goldang it, and we control what goes on. Wrong call? Missed something? Bullcrap, we're the best umps in the world, how dare you question us? And until HDTV and cameras everywhere, and tracking systems in the last ~20 years it was often hard to tell just how good or bad they were. 

There was that famous Eric Gregg game in the 1997 NLCS where he just decided the strike zone was going to be three feet wide and Livan Hernandez (career K rate of 5.9, never struck out more than 11 in any other game in his long career) struck out 15. It just happened, no consequences, nothing.

But now, with Statcast everywhere, even in the minors, and HD broadcasts of every game, it's a whole new world. Umpires have been graded on balls/strikes for many years. They just accept that the whole world knows more-or-less objectively if they were right or wrong in near real time. They can't hide. Truly terrible, belligerent, rogue umps don't exist like they did when I was a kid. That's why Angel and one or two others stand out. But they'd have been mid-pack or better in the 1990s.

There can still be improvements, but umpiring is better than it's ever been.

* Remember there was some kind of work stoppage and the umps resigned en masse, and the owners called their bluff and accepted the resignations. When the umps came crawling back the owners only brought back the ones they liked.)

Edited April 30 by DrungoHazewood

[Satyr3206]

I do remember I liked Ron Luciano.

[ShoelesJoe]

14 hours ago, Otter said:

Ken Kaiser, Garcia....

Ya, Kaiser was in his own world when it came to arrogance and incompetence. I remember a game (in Texas?) where he blew a call at 1st base early in the game and then instantly tossed Eddie Murray because Eddie looked at him wrong. It was no surprise that after the mass resignations Kaiser was one of the few who wasn't allowed to return. Everybody in the game wanted him gone. Same with Rich Garcia and Eric Gregg. 

[Orioles4Life21]

CB Bucknor was surprisingly ok tonight

[ShoelesJoe]

7 hours ago, Orioles4Life21 said:

CB Bucknor was surprisingly ok tonight

By "surprisingly ok" I assume you mean his strike zone was predictably terrible, as opposed to being a complete and utter abomination. This was his last game behind the plate. Notice a pattern? 

 

 

[Moose Milligan]

Bucknor had a few missed calls last night but wasn't as terrible as he's been.  

Good lord though, if he's 77th out of 81 umpires, who's the 81st?  I'm assuming Hernandez.

[Otter]

8 hours ago, Orioles4Life21 said:

CB Bucknor was surprisingly ok tonight

Yes, after the terrible 3rd strike call on Gunnar in the 1st he was actually better than he normally is.  But I loved how Palmer tore into him after that bad call.  It's almost as if Palmer was just waiting for the first chance to bash him.

[oriolediehard]

I miss the Earl Weaver days when he tormented umpires. He did it alot of times to get the O's players out of their slumps.

[Orioles4Life21]

3 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

By "surprisingly ok" I assume you mean his strike zone was predictably terrible, as opposed to being a complete and utter abomination. This was his last game behind the plate. Notice a pattern? 

 

 

He was quite good last night actually. 
 

 

[DenPA2002]

23 minutes ago, Orioles4Life21 said:

He was quite good last night actually. 
 

 

I guess you can't trust the scorecards either because it says 1 of 36 called strikes were true balls. But we know for sure that there was at least 2 to Gunnar alone. One in the first inning and one in the sixth inning.

What's that say about the rest of the scorecard.

 

[24fps]

3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

Bucknor had a few missed calls last night but wasn't as terrible as he's been.  

Good lord though, if he's 77th out of 81 umpires, who's the 81st?  I'm assuming Hernandez.

As of this morning, Bucknor is 80 out of 81 measured by Acc with John Bacon last, but it looks like Bacon has only called one game.  Unsurprisingly Laz Diaz, Hunter Wendlestedt, and Angel Hernandez also look to be in the bottom 20%.

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, 24fps said:

As of this morning, Bucknor is 80 out of 81 measured by Acc with John Bacon last, but it looks like Bacon has only called one game.  Unsurprisingly Laz Diaz, Hunter Wendlestedt, and Angel Hernandez also look to be in the bottom 20%.

Umpires these days are like, if you know my name, I’m probably terrible at calling balls and strikes.