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12 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

Pinch hitting Urias for him tonight was pointless. You need to give him abs vs lefties if that was the excuse for leaving him down. Especially since there is no chance in hell is starts vs Ragens 

Urias got a hit during the rally that led to the grand slam.  Don't blame Hyde for pulling Holliday there.

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Can someone please get rid of this guy? Hasn’t he violated some rules or something? Not sure I remember another poster making this board this unenjoyable.

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I know there are a lot of people, that rightfully so, are saying to give him time, and I agree to a certain extent. But the one thing that has to be recognized is how badly Holliday is being dominated

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I don't know if that is really fair.  I know that I would tell any man (or kid) to not even consider getting married until you were at least 30, and preferably 35.   I know when I first read that Holl

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3 minutes ago, capyy said:

missing a left handed bat in that scenario? no left handed infield options anyway. 

Urias has reverse splits and is fine as a backup option. And I'd rather have a solid RHB than Kemp or the version of Holliday we're getting right now.

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I'm not wanting them to make a move with Jackson Holliday yet, but if it becomes inevitable then Norby deserves consideration.

Agreed, but I think the only problem with promoting Norby is that you have a very right-handed infield, with Gunnar the only lefty.  I think it will be awhile if they decide to demote Holliday, but maybe Norby is the guy since he can play some outfield too.

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Cowser played in 5 straight after call up, give 5-6 days off, played in 10 straight, 2 days off, 4 straight , a day off, 2 straight, 1 day off, 1 game and then demoted. I didn’t look back to see how many of the days off that the team didn’t play. To say he didn’t get a chance is just wrong.

 

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/hittinglogs.php?p=cowseco01&y=2023

"Played in 10 straight" and "played in 5 straight" includes games he came off the bench. The most games he started in a row after his callup was a whopping 4. That is NOT playing every day. 

Let me clarify right now, being an every day starter means starting every day. Not getting platooned and coming off the bench. My fault for not being more clear that I expected Cowser to get a chance to start every day.

The team also came out of the All Star Break with Cowser being benched, which was preposterous for a prospect of his ability and pedigree. He only got into games following the All Star break, and a few starts, because Cedric Mullins got hurt. That's when the insane infatuation with Aaron Hicks started after Elias signed him. Hicks went on to reward Elias' love of dumpster diving with an absurdly lucky BABIP and terrible defense. And Cowser got screwed over as a result. 

I watched all those games. The way Elias and Hyde handled Cowser was awful. 

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17 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:

Pinch hitting Urias for him tonight was pointless. You need to give him abs vs lefties if that was the excuse for leaving him down. Especially since there is no chance in hell is starts vs Ragens 

Good to get Urias an at bat.  

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6 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

"Played in 10 straight" and "played in 5 straight" includes games he came off the bench. The most games he started in a row after his callup was a whopping 4. That is NOT playing every day. 

Let me clarify right now, being an every day starter means starting every day. Not getting platooned and coming off the bench. My fault for not being more clear that I expected Cowser to get a chance to start every day.

The team also came out of the All Star Break with Cowser being benched, which was preposterous for a prospect of his ability and pedigree. He only got into games following the All Star break, and a few starts, because Cedric Mullins got hurt. That's when the insane infatuation with Aaron Hicks started after Elias signed him. Hicks went on to reward Elias' love of dumpster diving with an absurdly lucky BABIP and terrible defense. And Cowser got screwed over as a result. 

I watched all those games. The way Elias and Hyde handled Cowser was awful. 

They don’t win the division without Hicks

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1 minute ago, DirtyBird said:

They don’t win the division without Hicks

 

9 minutes ago, Brooks The Great said:

"Played in 10 straight" and "played in 5 straight" includes games he came off the bench. The most games he started in a row after his callup was a whopping 4. That is NOT playing every day. 

Let me clarify right now, being an every day starter means starting every day. Not getting platooned and coming off the bench. My fault for not being more clear that I expected Cowser to get a chance to start every day.

The team also came out of the All Star Break with Cowser being benched, which was preposterous for a prospect of his ability and pedigree. He only got into games following the All Star break, and a few starts, because Cedric Mullins got hurt. That's when the insane infatuation with Aaron Hicks started after Elias signed him. Hicks went on to reward Elias' love of dumpster diving with an absurdly lucky BABIP and terrible defense. And Cowser got screwed over as a result. 

I watched all those games. The way Elias and Hyde handled Cowser was awful. 

Cowser was not good last year.  Not all promising young prospects are ready their first time up.  

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10 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

Agreed, but I think the only problem with promoting Norby is that you have a very right-handed infield, with Gunnar the only lefty.  I think it will be awhile if they decide to demote Holliday, but maybe Norby is the guy since he can play some outfield too.

Why does it matter where the distribution of lefties comes from? With two switch hitters, two/three full time left handed batters and a platoon lefty I think we’re fine there.

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15 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

Agreed, but I think the only problem with promoting Norby is that you have a very right-handed infield, with Gunnar the only lefty.  I think it will be awhile if they decide to demote Holliday, but maybe Norby is the guy since he can play some outfield too.

Can always give more starts to O’Hearn at 1st to even out the lineup if necessary 

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Why does it matter where the distribution of lefties comes from? With two switch hitters, two/three full time left handed batters and a platoon lefty I think we’re fine there.

Maybe, but then there's just so much overlap then between Norby, Mateo and Urias -- all righties at second base.  In fact I think if they promote Norby it should be to demote/release/trade Hays or Mateo.  But I guess Norby's problem is that no one is in love with his defense.  

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Can always give more starts to O’Hearn at 1st to even out the lineup if necessary 

They already do on occasion when Mounty sits, but I don't think anyone likes his defense as much as Mounty's.

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17 minutes ago, EddeeEddee said:

Agreed, but I think the only problem with promoting Norby is that you have a very right-handed infield, with Gunnar the only lefty.  I think it will be awhile if they decide to demote Holliday, but maybe Norby is the guy since he can play some outfield too.

That could be a factor and also Norby's defense that's his weakest link as a prospect. Kjerstad is certainly deserving, but getting him at bats could be an issue since he can only play 1B/DH/OF.

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