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[davearm]

I still think the most logical deal is the one davearm proposed: Adenhart, Aybar, Kotchman, and Mathis for Tejada. The Orioles plug a lot of holes, and the Angels don't have to give up any of the guys currently helping them. Of course I'd rather get Wood or Kendrick, but that's still a lot of talent, and Adenhart could quickly become one of the Orioles top starters.

I really gotta disagree with this.

Seriously, more and more lately I'm having a hard time leaving a talent like Brandon Wood on the table, even if it means taking one or two fewer good young players.

[markpolis]

I hate how people talk about pluging holes.

I really do not want Mathis/Kotchman/Aybar.

Thats all we have been doing for the past 10 years is plugging friggin holes.

We can plug our wholes through FA and minors if we really needed too.

If we trade Tejada, we need to try to get the best potential (which is Wood, Kendrick and pitching prospects. At least get one of Wood or Kendrick).

Agreed. I would hope if we were going to trade Tejada we would get either Wood or Kendrick. With Kendrick now contributing to the major league team, I doubt the Angels would move him. That being said, Wood is a must.

[J.D.]

I really gotta disagree with this.

Seriously, more and more lately I'm having a hard time leaving a talent like Brandon Wood on the table, even if it means taking one or two fewer good young players.

Wood, Kotchman, Adenhart.

That's the deal I'd like to see get done. I don't care how delusional and unrealistic it may be.

[rp0806]

Seriously, more and more lately I'm having a hard time leaving a talent like Brandon Wood on the table, even if it means taking one or two fewer good young players.

Well, I'm basically assuming that Wood and Kendrick are off the table. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic. If it's a choice between Wood and Kotchman or Kendrick and Adenhart vs. a larger package I would certainly go with the former. I guess the tougher call is whether the Orioles would be better off with say, Wood and a B or B- prospect like Saunders, vs. a larger package.

[rp0806]

Wood, Kotchman, Adenhart.

That's the deal I'd like to see get done. I don't care how delusional and unrealistic it may be.

That really would be ideal.

[davearm]

Wood, Kotchman, Adenhart.

That's the deal I'd like to see get done. I don't care how delusional and unrealistic it may be.

Maybe dial it back a notch from Adenhart to Arredondo?

[utvolzac]

I hate how people talk about pluging holes.

I really do not want Mathis/Kotchman/Aybar.

Thats all we have been doing for the past 10 years is plugging friggin holes.

We can plug our wholes through FA and minors if we really needed too.

If we trade Tejada, we need to try to get the best potential (which is Wood, Kendrick and pitching prospects. At least get one of Wood or Kendrick).

Man, you really got to do some research about these guys. I wouldn't call Kotchman, Mathis & Aybar plugging holes. These guys are really good young players and have tons of potential.

Last year, Kotchman was #6 on the 2005 Top 100 list of prospects. The only thing between him and the major leagues is a case of Mono. Once he bounces back from that he should be MLB ready.

Aybar is another guy who is a top prospect (35-50). The reason Wood might be traded or moved to 3B, is because this guy is so good at SS.

Mathis has slipped since he struggled at the MLB level, but this guy is also a former top 25 prospect. Plus he's a catcher, so sometimes it takes them longer to develop. He was a better prospect than Brian McCann, who also struggled his first year in MLB, now look at him.

Buying low on guys like Kotchman & Mathis could really pay off huge in the long run. Either way, these guys are not stop gaps or plugging holes, these are long term solutions. If you can get a deal centered around Wood or Kendrick and get one of these guys (and a pitcher) along with them, that's a pretty good deal.

[J.D.]

Maybe dial it back a notch from Adenhart to Arredondo?

I'd still do it. Arrendondo's still a darn good prospect.

But would the Orioles do it? Would Anaheim? No clue. Seems unlikely.

I still think that the Houston deal is much more likely to occur.

[crstrobel]

That really would be ideal.

I agree (see the last post on pg 4)

[NoVaO]

I'd settle for Saunders if we're getting Kendrick. If we're getting Wood, I Woodn't (hehe).

I don't know anything about Arredondo, so I'd have to check him out a bit and get back to you on that.

I'll give you a little info. on him. He kinda burst onto the scene this year. He was converted from a shortstop to a pitcher, and throws a 97+ fastball. Not sure of what else he throws. He has started popping up on a bunch of top-100 lists usually around the 60's. His stats are below:

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/A/Jose-Arredondo.shtml

If the Angels would prefer to part with him rather than Adenhart, I would be perfectly fine with that as long as Wood and Aybar are included.

Kotchman would be fine with me in place of Aybar, but I think we should go after Shealy instead.

[utvolzac]

Maybe dial it back a notch from Adenhart to Arredondo?

I'd hold out as long as possible to get Wood, Kotchman + Adenhart. But I could live with Arredondo as long as those other two guys are part of the package. I'd still rather try and add something to the deal to get Adenhart, maybe Conine or Hawkins or both, who cares when it comes to those guys.

[crstrobel]

Maybe dial it back a notch from Adenhart to Arredondo?

Not if their desperate. Especially with the Rangers getting C. Lee.

[davearm]

I'd still do it. Arrendondo's still a darn good prospect.

But would the Orioles do it? Would Anaheim? No clue. Seems unlikely.

I still think that the Houston deal is much more likely to occur.

About the best a couple schmoes like us could say is that both teams *should* do it.

Would is a whole other question.

[Elon Os Fan]

Man, you really got to do some research about these guys. I wouldn't call Kotchman, Mathis & Aybar plugging holes. These guys are really good young players and have tons of potential.

Last year, Kotchman was #6 on the 2005 Top 100 list of prospects. The only thing between him and the major leagues is a case of Mono. Once he bounces back from that he should be MLB ready.

Aybar is another guy who is a top prospect (35-50). The reason Wood might be traded or moved to 3B, is because this guy is so good at SS.

Mathis has slipped since he struggled at the MLB level, but this guy is also a former top 25 prospect. Plus he's a catcher, so sometimes it takes them longer to develop. He was a better prospect than Brian McCann, who also struggled his first year in MLB, now look at him.

Buying low on guys like Kotchman & Mathis could really pay off huge in the long run. Either way, these guys are not stop gaps or plugging holes, these are long term solutions. If you can get a deal centered around Wood or Kendrick and get one of these guys (and a pitcher) along with them, that's a pretty good deal.

I like Wood, Kendrick and the pitching prospects. Give me one of Wood/Kendrick and a pitching prospect with Mathis and I would do the deal.

I see Gibbons at 1B so we really dont need Kotchman.

Aybar sounds good, but Wood and Kendrick sound 10 times better. Why not settle for the best when trading the best.

[Mackus]

I like Wood, Kendrick and the pitching prospects. Give me one of Wood/Kendrick and a pitching prospect with Mathis and I would do the deal.

I see Gibbons at 1B so we really dont need Kotchman.

Aybar sounds good, but Wood and Kendrick sound 10 times better. Why not settle for the best when trading the best.

I'd actually prefer Wood and Kendrick to Wood or Kendrick, Aybar, and Adenhart.