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Jurrjens is playing in the WBC...has to think that will hurt his chances of making the rotation, right?

It won't help unless he has a particularly strong showing, then who knows. I would prefer to have him working with Peterson from the earliest possible date though.

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That's true, but I just don't like the logjam of questionable starters at the end of the rotation. I'm going to reiterate that I don't think Saunders is a savior, but I was hoping the Orioles would have signed a proven guy for one of the spots going forward.

I don't think adding a guy with options can create a logjam, unless you are worried about players getting their innings in, in spring training.

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I don't think adding a guy with options can create a logjam, unless you are worried about players getting their innings in, in spring training.

Logjam in the sense they have roughly 7 questionable guys who are competing for the majority of the starts in the 4 and 5 spots. Jurrjens just brings in another, and while it is an admittedly low-risk deal, that's not my complaint. The Orioles will have to rely on very good fortune again if they want to make the playoffs with the biggest signing of the offseason coming today in Jair Jurrjens.

All the best to him in his attempt to get back as a middle-rotation starter, but I just don't see it at this point. I realize I'm being a Debbie Downer right now, but I was hoping for a more sure thing.

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I was just saying in the FA thread we should take a shot with Jonathan Sanchez, but this works, too. With Peterson and biomechanical analysis maybe they get some value out of him.

You do not want Jonathan Sanchez at this point, trust me. I played against the man for 2 years and faced him at least 15 times (probably more than that, but my memory serves me wrong sometimes) in college. He was SO easy to rattle then. I could not BELIEVE he pushed through the minors and made the SF rotation as a 15th round draft pick....and then he had success (no-hitter!).....he was a completely different pitcher! Someone in the minor leagues in the SF organization did their job!

But then the 2010 NLCS - San Fran vs. Philly - even though San Fran prevailed - I completely predicted (based off my personal previous outings with him - his college, Ohio Dominican and my college, Mount Vernon, were rivals, and met quite often in the playoffs), that he could get rattled in Philly. He did. Wasn't long he got traded to KC....then Colorado. Sanchez would be the WORST SP we could pick up cheap b/c of his mental problems.

Does he have good stuff? Yes. I won't deny that. He has proven that. But he is a head case. Would be an awful signing.

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I'm not gonna lie, IMO this was a bad signing...could it work out? Yes. But the risk is super high...If Jair gets his $4 million is incentives, it will be a steal...but I feel like we will be paying a pitcher $1.5 million to put up GOD AWFUL numbers.....JMO

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I'm not gonna lie, IMO this was a bad signing...could it work out? Yes. But the risk is super high...If Jair gets his $4 million is incentives, it will be a steal...but I feel like we will be paying a pitcher $1.5 million to put up GOD AWFUL numbers.....JMO

There is no risk. 1.5 million is nothing for baseball salary. If he doesn't work out he spends the year at AAA. If he performs well he will get his 4 million a year and we will be happy.

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You do not want Jonathan Sanchez at this point, trust me. I played against the man for 2 years and faced him at least 15 times (probably more than that, but my memory serves me wrong sometimes) in college. He was SO easy to rattle then. I could not BELIEVE he pushed through the minors and made the SF rotation as a 15th round draft pick....and then he had success (no-hitter!).....he was a completely different pitcher! Someone in the minor leagues in the SF organization did their job!

But then the 2010 NLCS - San Fran vs. Philly - even though San Fran prevailed - I completely predicted (based off my personal previous outings with him - his college, Ohio Dominican and my college, Mount Vernon, were rivals, and met quite often in the playoffs), that he could get rattled in Philly. He did. Wasn't long he got traded to KC....then Colorado. Sanchez would be the WORST SP we could pick up cheap b/c of his mental problems.

Does he have good stuff? Yes. I won't deny that. He has proven that. But he is a head case. Would be an awful signing.

And not long ago people would have said the same things about Tillman before Peterson got his hands on him. Success goes a long way towards any confidence issues and when you have a guy like Peterson available it makes sense to me to roll the dice on guys who have had success. Sanchez would be a similar type pick up, the point is to allow someone with expertise to look at his mechanics and see if there is a way to get some value out of him. If he can get someone like Jurrjens back on track it will be well worth the investment. And $1.5 mil isn't much risk.

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I'm not gonna lie, IMO this was a bad signing...could it work out? Yes. But the risk is super high...If Jair gets his $4 million is incentives, it will be a steal...but I feel like we will be paying a pitcher $1.5 million to put up GOD AWFUL numbers.....JMO

You can't be serious...

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