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mdbdotcom Hangout Grand Counsel

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Not superior. Not an upgrade. Kennedy has an ERA+ of 95. Miggy is at 97. Kennedy is benefitting greatly from Petco.

It looks like FIP is way too impressed with his strikeouts.

Even though he pitches better on the road?

Home ERA: 4.18

Away ERA: 3.06

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Not superior. Not an upgrade. Kennedy has an ERA+ of 95. Miggy is at 97. Kennedy is benefitting greatly from Petco.

Their ERA+ is virtually identical. Your dismissing a huge difference in FIP. Sure Kennedy has benefited from pitching at Petco...he has also been hurt by a defense behind him that pales in comparison to the one that Gonzo is pitching with.

Honestly I have posted I am not really in favor of grabbing the guy. He is not enough of an upgrade IMO to justify the talent it would take to get him. He is superior to Gonzo though IMO

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Even though he pitches better on the road?

Home ERA: 4.18

Away ERA: 3.06

Compare based on Advance stats----WHAT ABOUT LEAGUE DIFFERENCE?---why are so many down on Gonzo? I would bench Ubaldo and Chen before him.

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Hmm, that's interesting. Maybe he would really be getting rocked in another park.

Or it could be indicative of just how bad the defense behind him is. Padres are 28th in team UZR150 and 18th in defensive efficiency.

Big park, bad defense, bad combination.

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Compare based on Advance stats----WHAT ABOUT LEAGUE DIFFERENCE?---why are so many down on Gonzo? I would bench Ubaldo and Chen before him.

I actually do not see the trade as being enough of a upgrade to justify it, also Kennedy is significantly more expensive in terms of salary with less control.I think he is better than Gonzo but not enough to go get him. Yea at this point Ubaldo or Chen would be more of a concern to me than Gonzo in the rotation.

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Their ERA+ is virtually identical. Your dismissing a huge difference in FIP. Sure Kennedy has benefited from pitching at Petco...he has also been hurt by a defense behind him that pales in comparison to the one that Gonzo is pitching with.

Honestly I have posted I am not really in favor of grabbing the guy. He is not enough of an upgrade IMO to justify the talent it would take to get him. He is superior to Gonzo though IMO

The huge difference in FIP isn't that relevant. Kennedy is K'ing hitters at an unprecedented rate for him and walking batters below his career average. His HR/FB is below his career average and his HR/9 is well below his career average. All that adds up to regression.

Looking just at a large difference in FIP is a very poor way to analyze P.

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The huge difference in FIP isn't that relevant. Kennedy is K'ing hitters at an unprecedented rate for him and walking batters below his career average. His HR/FB is below his career average and his HR/9 is well below his career average. All that adds up to regression.

Looking just at a large difference in FIP is a very poor way to analyze P.

I hear ya. Looking at any one stat is ill advised that includes ERA+ ...We can agree to disagree I guess. At the end of the day we actually agree...I to do not believe the difference is enough to justify upsetting the apple cart so to speak. To many moving parts (new league, smaller park, etc) not enough upside when compared to Gonzo who is here and we know what we are getting.

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I hear ya. Looking at any one stat is ill advised that includes ERA+ ...We can agree to disagree I guess. At the end of the day we actually agree...I to do not believe the difference is enough to justify upsetting the apple cart so to speak. To many moving parts (new league, smaller park, etc) not enough upside when compared to Gonzo who is here and we know what we are getting.

And that's just discussing them trading places. Factor in Kennedy's salary and the additional cost in acquiring him and it's a no-brainier, don't do it move.

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