Adley Rutschman 2022

[Sports Guy]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

If you link an article you might want to read it first.

A couple is two, so the progression would have started on March 30th so he'd still be behind going by this quote.

You are literally just trying to find something to complain about.  It was always 2-3 weeks and then go from there.

It sounds like he resumed activities within the 3 week time period.  Was it 14 days?  17 days?  20 days? We don’t know and I don’t think it matters that much.  He was still a guy they weren’t going to rush back QBR someone who didn’t have a ST and would need time to get himself back.  
 

 

[ChuckS]

Just now, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

I just watched the first minute, but Elias said AR is expected to get back to full baseball action on April 15th. Then start playing in minor league games to get his timing back. 

So if Rutshman is back to practicing without limitations the Orioles aren’t publicizing it. I’d expect by this weekend or beginning next week for Rutschman to begin playing in minor league games.

Hopefully a week from now he’s at Bowie or Norfolk with no further setbacks. 

Seems reasonable.  Hard to imagine them not giving him a good three weeks in Norfolk against live competition since he did not have a Spring training.  I think we are looking at a mid-May promotion to Baltimore (best case scenario). 

[Frobby]

Interesting interview with Elias there.  Based on what he said, I’ll be disappointed if Adley isn’t back playing by the weekend.   It also was interesting to hear they’ll probably only have him catch about 4 days a week this year.  Not too surprising, but interesting.  

As to Grayson, sounds like they want to start having him go deeper into games before they bring him up.   I don’t know, I’d rather use his available innings in the majors than have him go 6-7 innings in the minors a bunch of times.   But perhaps they’re only talking about a couple of longer outings.  
 

[wildcard]

29 minutes ago, interloper said:

Brown interviews Elias.

Math is not Elias strong suit.  4 games a week time 26 weeks in 104 games.    

By the time Adley gets to the the majors maybe 22 weeks times 4 games a week which is 88 games in the majors this year.

[Can_of_corn]

2 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Interesting interview with Elias there.  Based on what he said, I’ll be disappointed if Adley isn’t back playing by the weekend.   It also was interesting to hear they’ll probably only have him catch about 4 days a week this year.  Not too surprising, but interesting.  

As to Grayson, sounds like they want to start having him go deeper into games before they bring him up.   I don’t know, I’d rather use his available innings in the majors than have him go 6-7 innings in the minors a bunch of times.   But perhaps they’re only talking about a couple of longer outings.  
 

It's funny.  He won't get promoted because he hasn't shown he can go deep into games but he can't show he can go deep into games because they won't let him.

Nice rational to keep him down for as long as the want no matter how well he performs.

[Aristotelian]

5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

If you link an article you might want to read it first.

A couple is two, so the progression would have started on March 30th so he'd still be behind going by this quote.

The article stated two to three along with the quote. Yes, "couple" literally means two but "couple weeks" is not quite as specific as "two weeks". Anyway, there is a report from April 3 that he had started hitting. Assuming he started hitting the 2nd or earlier, you are quibbling about a matter of days at most.

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/baseball/news/orioles-adley-rutschman-increasing-activities/

 

[interloper]

7 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's funny.  He won't get promoted because he hasn't shown he can go deep into games but he can't show he can go deep into games because they won't let him.

Nice rational to keep him down for as long as the want no matter how well he performs.

I guess you forgot about the short spring training? Every pitcher in the organization is slowly ramping up. Grayson pitched 4 innings his first start, 5 his next. I'm sure he'll go 6 if the pitch count allows in his next one. 

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, interloper said:

I guess you forgot about the short spring training? Every pitcher in the organization is slowly ramping up. Grayson pitched 4 innings his first start, 5 his next. I'm sure he'll go 6 if the pitch count allows in his next one. 

I guess you forgot he wasn't on the 40 man and didn't have a short spring training?

[interloper]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I guess you forgot he wasn't on the 40 man and didn't have a short spring training?

I guess you forgot they need to monitor his innings anyway this year? And that limiting his innings now means they expect him to be with the ML team for the duration of the season once he comes up? So in fact, you are arguing that they waste his innings in the minor leagues up front. 

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

11 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It's funny.  He won't get promoted because he hasn't shown he can go deep into games but he can't show he can go deep into games because they won't let him.

Nice rational to keep him down for as long as the want no matter how well he performs.

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[waroriole]

17 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Interesting interview with Elias there.  Based on what he said, I’ll be disappointed if Adley isn’t back playing by the weekend.   It also was interesting to hear they’ll probably only have him catch about 4 days a week this year.  Not too surprising, but interesting.  

As to Grayson, sounds like they want to start having him go deeper into games before they bring him up.   I don’t know, I’d rather use his available innings in the majors than have him go 6-7 innings in the minors a bunch of times.   But perhaps they’re only talking about a couple of longer outings.  
 

Yeah I don’t like that comment about Grayson going deeper into games first. If that’s the case, why do they keep removing him after 65 pitches? It sounds like more BS to make sure he doesn’t hit Super 2 status this year. 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, interloper said:

I guess you forgot they need to monitor his innings anyway this year? And that limiting his innings now means they expect him to be with the ML team for the duration of the season once he comes up? 

And folks say I can't admit when I was wrong about something. 

 

I guess you forgot that this season doesn't matter so they can monitor his innings as easily in the majors if they were so inclined.

[waroriole]

2 minutes ago, interloper said:

I guess you forgot they need to monitor his innings anyway this year? And that limiting his innings now means they expect him to be with the ML team for the duration of the season once he comes up? So in fact, you are arguing that they waste his innings in the minor leagues up front. 

I think he’s arguing for Grayson to be up now. Stop wasting the finite number of innings he has this year at AAA. But if you insist he pitch deep into games at AAA first, then get on with it and stop pulling him so quickly. 

[interloper]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

And folks say I can't admit when I was wrong about something. 

 

I guess you forgot that this season doesn't matter so they can monitor his innings as easily in the majors if they were so inclined.

You can't, but alright - fair, I did forget about the spring training thing. Elias said they're gonna check some boxes so they're checking some boxes. He's gonna be up in a few weeks. I don't see the point of complaining for those couple of weeks I guess. 

[interloper]

Just now, waroriole said:

I think he’s arguing for Grayson to be up now. Stop wasting the finite number of innings he has this year at AAA. But if you insist he pitch deep into games at AAA first, then get on with it and stop pulling him so quickly. 

I suppose that's fair. But it is what it is, they have some kind of plan and it's a plan based on evidence and data. There's just not a lot of point in complaining about it. At some point he'll be here and none of this will really matter.