“Orioles big game shopping & most believe it's exclusively rotation”

[mall-O-cup]

3 hours ago, NCRaven said:

This kind of contract happens when an owner fires his GM and decides he can Steinbrenner or Moreno his way through.

George Steinbrenner, owner of the Yankees from 1973 - 2010. The team had 7 World Series appearances producing 5 Titles.

Jim Crane, owner of the Houston Astros since 2011. The team has had 4 World Series appearances producing 2 Titles.

Peter Angelos, owner of the Orioles since 1993.  Zero World Series appearances.

[tntoriole]

4 hours ago, wildcard said:

After they didn't get Rizzo I thought the Astros had Abreu if they wanted him.  I didn't think the O's would outbid the Astros.

We could outbid them for Trey probably 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, tntoriole said:

We could outbid them for Trey probably 

Not hard to outbid a team that isn't bothering to bid.

[tntoriole]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

Not hard to outbid a team that isn't bothering to bid.

Oriole offseason Bible 101 

[tntoriole]

4 hours ago, DrinkinWithFermi said:

I was one of them and I feel no regret whatsoever.

Cruz violated every known law of player progression and regression for some "mysterious" reason.

It was downright Bondsian one might say 

I argued then that professional hitters like Cruz and Ortiz and Harold Baines etc etc usually keep hitting into 40s.   
All you needed him for was to hit and these guys continue much longer than a position player would.. I was right.. Duquette was wrong. 
I would have done the same with Abreu. 

It is a risk I would take every time  with DHs who have been productive. 

[tntoriole]

If the Orioles had truly wanted Abreu they could have certainly outbid them.  They did not want him.  But the Os are masters  at the token offseason bid. 

[Can_of_corn]

13 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

Oriole offseason Bible 101 

Are you team #Percolate or team #Liftoff?

[tntoriole]

17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Are you team #Percolate or team #Liftoff?

Gotta prove it to me.  I support Elias but still don’t know where the Angelos drama goes —hopefully he will have a free rein but no Oriole GM with this family ever has. 

[emmett16]

23 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Are you team #Percolate or team #Liftoff?

 

[wildcard]

1 hour ago, tntoriole said:

If the Orioles had truly wanted Abreu they could have certainly outbid them.  They did not want him.  But the Os are masters  at the token offseason bid. 

Maybe Elias was too smart to give Abreu a third year.  Sounds like a smart non-move to me.

Edited November 29, 2022 by wildcard

[Frobby]

56 minutes ago, tntoriole said:

If the Orioles had truly wanted Abreu they could have certainly outbid them.  They did not want him.  But the Os are masters  at the token offseason bid. 

Are you suggesting they made some token bid for Abreu?  I have not heard that they made any bid at all.  

[OriolesMagic83]

5 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Jon Heyman of The New York Post says it will be around $20MM per year, putting the guarantee in the vicinity of $60MM.

Not a good idea for the O's to pay a very good but not great DH $20 mill/yr.  If I'm paying $20 mill/yr for a DH I want Big Pappy/early peak JD Martinez production.

[wildcard]

10 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Not a good idea for the O's to pay a very good but not great DH $20 mill/yr.  If I'm paying $20 mill/yr for a DH I want Big Pappy/early peak JD Martinez production.

I don't think it was the 20m/yr.  I think it was the third year.   And that the Astros could offer Abreu to play 1B instead of DH.   

[interloper]

1 minute ago, wildcard said:

I don't think it was the 20m/yr.  I think it was the third year.   And that the Astros could offer Abreu to play 1B instead of DH.   

I think the Os are looking for lefty bats anyway. I doubt they had much interest in Abreu but who knows.

[tntoriole]

38 minutes ago, wildcard said:

Maybe Elias was too smart to give Abreu a third year.  Sounds like a smart non-move to me.

Come talk to me after the third year.  Right now I will predict he will provide over value in years 36,37 and 38.. and very well may through another deal.  Astros not known for being dumb. 

Edited November 29, 2022 by tntoriole