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TheBee Major Leaguer

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Actually the question that needs to be asked is...

Is George Sherrill better than someone we have on the 25 man roster right now? Is he better than someone we have in the bullpen?

Yes to both questions. And there are people (Albers, Mata) who aren't a financial risk to release.

I agree with this post and would welcome George back to Baltimore.

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Most of the time I agree with you. In this case, Sherrill was good with us, good for Seattle. Good for a while with LA. Someone posted that LA messed with his mechanics. I think it's a reasonable possibility that he could regain his groove.

If it is a mechanical problem and GS would accept a minor league contract to work it out then I would be the first to support bringing him back. I think a major league deal given his rapid decline should not be anywhere near the Orioles' radar screen on principle alone even if there might other compelling reasons to avoid him as well.

I'm a firm believer that if you want to get healthy, you first need to stop getting your groceries at the dump. The harshness of this image in no way reflects my feelings towards GS - he was one of my favorite Orioles while he was on the team - but it does underscore an approach toward team building the Orioles should abandon utterly and immediately IMO.

The focus needs to be on building an organization that knows how to scout, acquire, develop and maintain talent - both old and young. It needs to get out of the rehab lottery business especially at the ML level. It's a distraction and a waste of resources and most of all it's a clear signal that the Orioles are still at least partially content to live off other teams scraps. Respect plays a role in my feelings as well.

Edit: Of course Sherril already has a contract, so it would be a minor league assignment that he would have to accept. I agree that the remaining cost of his contract should be incidental.

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I'm a firm believer that if you want to get healthy, you first need to stop getting your groceries at the dump. The harshness of this image in no way reflects my feelings towards GS - he was one of my favorite Orioles while he was on the team - but it does underscore an approach toward team building the Orioles should abandon utterly and immediately IMO.

The focus needs to be on building an organization that knows how to scout, acquire, develop and maintain talent - both old and young. It needs to get out of the rehab lottery business especially at the ML level. It's a distraction and a waste of resources and most of all it's a clear signal that the Orioles are still at least partially content to live off other teams scraps. Respect plays a role in my feelings as well.

Hear, hear! :clap3:

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It isn't a good business decision.

They could possibly trade for him though, getting the Dodgers to eat most of it.

I wonder if the Dodgers would eat money and basically admit a very poor trade on their end. I think they'd rather trade with a different team.

Sherrill was a good pitcher in Seattle before he got to Baltimore. He was a good pitcher in LA last year after he left Baltimore. There are obvious signs that something is wrong with him that is more than just having a pitching coach make a couple of tweaks. If I could stash him in the minors and see if he is healthy and can be fixed, I would do it. But to add him to our roster now would be insane.

If we could get something for Ohman and replace him with Sherill I don't think it's insane. This team isn't winning enough to be contenders, so the talent is still a net positive. Also, think back to the Bradford trade when many said that AM traded to make the major league team weaker to improve draft status. AM gets talent for Ohman, brings back a fan favorite and gets a higher draft pick or lightning in a bottle. I don't see him doing it for 2 million, but maybe trying some sort of deal (if the Dodgers are willing).

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Miggy, Raffy, Eddie, Bordick, Earl, Ponson.

Okay, maybe I went too far with Ponson, but the others all came back to SOME level of success with the Birds.

I dunno. Of your examples, I think really only Bordick and Eddie had successful second terms with the O's. That is, relative to their standards and when considering all the factors. (Miggi still pending.)

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cindyluvsbrady

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Let's pick up Flat Breezy and see what Kranitz can do with him. Change of scenery, back to where he excelled, may help. NO reason at all to not take a chance on him.

BRING BACK FLAT BREEZY!!!!! :clap3::clap3::clap3:

I agree!00%

GET THE SHERIFF BACK:):clap3:

Hurry!!!!!!!!

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If it is a mechanical problem and GS would accept a minor league contract to work it out then I would be the first to support bringing him back. I think a major league deal given his rapid decline should not be anywhere near the Orioles' radar screen on principle alone even if there might other compelling reasons to avoid him as well.

I'm a firm believer that if you want to get healthy, you first need to stop getting your groceries at the dump. The harshness of this image in no way reflects my feelings towards GS - he was one of my favorite Orioles while he was on the team - but it does underscore an approach toward team building the Orioles should abandon utterly and immediately IMO.

The focus needs to be on building an organization that knows how to scout, acquire, develop and maintain talent - both old and young. It needs to get out of the rehab lottery business especially at the ML level. It's a distraction and a waste of resources and most of all it's a clear signal that the Orioles are still at least partially content to live off other teams scraps. Respect plays a role in my feelings as well.

Edit: Of course Sherril already has a contract, so it would be a minor league assignment that he would have to accept. I agree that the remaining cost of his contract should be incidental.

I agree with most everything you say. You're thinking more big picture. We do need to work on scouting and development and all that. At the same time, if one small move presents itself to improve, even short term, you have to consider it. GS is an odd case, and one I think would be good for us. Like you say, if we could get him into the minors that is the best thing. But if not we could live with him, and work with him, and we have plenty of options to make it happen.

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The brim has not been flat enough, also. Way too much curvature.

Like this dammit:

<img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e0/George_Sherrill_2008.jpg" alt="Flat Breezy Time" height="750" width="650" />

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