Hiding our starters or SP from division rivals?

[AceKing]

Does it seem like this is a good strategy? 

Does it seem like that is what Hyde is doing?

This is today’s lineup:

For the Orioles
Cedric Mullins CF
Eric Young Jr. LF
Renato Núñez 3B
Anthony Santander RF
Rio Ruiz 1B
Richie Martin SS
Chance Sisco DH
Carlos Pérez C
Jack Reinheimer 2B

Gabriel Ynoa RHP

Other pitchers listed for the Orioles include Dillon Tate, Paul Fry, Branden Kline, Evan Phillips, Tanner Scott and Bo Schultz.

For the Red Sox
Jackie Bradley Jr. CF
Mookie Betts RF
Eduardo Núñez 2B
Xander Bogaerts SS
Blake Swihart DH
Sandy León C
Bobby Dalbec 1B
Michael Chavis 3B
Bryce Brentz LF

Eduardo Rodriguez LHP

 

I remember this strategy being pushed by some in the past, but I haven’t heard Hyde’s perspective completely...

[interloper]

Hyde has indeed said they will do some of that. Cobb, Cashner, and Bundy have already started the spring throwing sim games. Hopefully they don't pitch as many sim games as Buck had them throw. I never liked that. Maybe you hide em from a couple games here and there with division opponents, but otherwise let the guys pitch.

[ChosenOne21]

Can't say I'm an expert, but the whole "hide your starters" thing seems silly. There's probably hundreds of hours of footage already available on most of these guys. What difference does a few more make? It wouldn't shock me if the lack of reps is more damaging although it probably doesn't matter much either way

[Frobby]

Apparently Buck wasn’t out on an island with that approach.

[Mayor McCheese]

Most starters / vets don't travel early in ST.  They usually just send the minimum to meet what requirement MLB set for road trip games.

[esmd]

Who cares?  I mean really, if he wants to do it and sees a benefit, great.  The point of ST is to get their work in and prepare for the season.  As long as using a little gamesmanship doesn't hinder that, than I could care less. 

[jabba72]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Apparently Buck wasn’t out on an island with that approach.

If anything it worked. When you face the Yankees and Red Sox 36 times per year, close to 25% of your schedule, you need those small edges. 

[UpstateNYfan]

59 minutes ago, jabba72 said:

If anything it worked. When you face the Yankees and Red Sox 36 times per year, close to 25% of your schedule, you need those small edges. 

Isn't it possible that a pitcher might benefit seeing divisional opponents in meaningless games? Even if they get bombed it might change their approach when it matters. If you are any good, you learn from your mistakes, not by hiding from making them.

[jabba72]

1 minute ago, UpstateNYfan said:

Isn't it possible that a pitcher might benefit seeing divisional opponents in meaningless games? Even if they get bombed it might change their approach when it matters. If you are any good, you learn from your mistakes, not by hiding from making them.

I dunno. Buck seemed to think it helped the pitchers more. Kind of a like a pitcher not being as effective the 3rd time through the batting order. The more hitters see someone the more comfortable they become. 

[Redskins Rick]

1 hour ago, ChosenOne21 said:

Can't say I'm an expert, but the whole "hide your starters" thing seems silly. There's probably hundreds of hours of footage already available on most of these guys. What difference does a few more make? It wouldn't shock me if the lack of reps is more damaging although it probably doesn't matter much either way

but how many innings does your vet pitcher really need to tune up. Not like they just took up the game of ball?

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

but how many innings does your vet pitcher really need to tune up. Not like they just took up the game of ball?

Cobb needs four months.

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Cobb needs four months.

Cobb had an injury, and had loss of feeling in his finger tips, and it affected his grip and quality of pitches.

[theocean]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Cobb needs four months.

You of all people should know how long a corn 'cobb' takes to grow. 

[Moose Milligan]

They suck.  What's to hide?

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Redskins Rick said:

Cobb had an injury, and had loss of feeling in his finger tips, and it affected his grip and quality of pitches.

You  couldn't tell that was a joke?