Joey Ortiz 2022

[deward]

1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

When does a hot streak become something more?   This is about 5 weeks of OPS over 1.000.  Actually over 1.100.    As August starts, he hasn't slowed down one bit.   If anything, he's doing even better, which is kind of hard to fathom.   I will be suprised if he's not in Norfolk next week.  He's done enough.  He just turned 24.   He's got to be in the conversation for next year's roster whether at SS or 2B.    Has Ortiz bypassed Westburg?   Is he about to?

Remember David Newhan? He hit .403, with an OPS of 1.059, over his first 34 games for the O's in 2004. He looked great doing it too. His OPS for the rest of the season was .685, right around his career norm. I'm in no way suggesting that Ortiz will crater like Newhan did, just pointing out that it's not unheard of for guys to have the best 4-5 weeks of their career and then never look that good again. Either way, Ortiz should be in Norfolk now.

[btdart20]

On 8/5/2022 at 11:31 AM, Tony-OH said:

I'd say he's earned some AAA time. Westburg needs to start playing 2B and 3B mostly anyways. Ortiz can rotate with Gunnar at 3B, take his other reps at 2B moving Westburg to 3B.

Agreed!  

Grenier, Martin, Jones, Long…. Not sure who’s still there but it’s the end of the road within the O’s org for some of them.

[RZNJ]

38 minutes ago, deward said:

Remember David Newhan? He hit .403, with an OPS of 1.059, over his first 34 games for the O's in 2004. He looked great doing it too. His OPS for the rest of the season was .685, right around his career norm. I'm in no way suggesting that Ortiz will crater like Newhan did, just pointing out that it's not unheard of for guys to have the best 4-5 weeks of their career and then never look that good again. Either way, Ortiz should be in Norfolk now.

You could be right about Newhan's breakdown after 34 games but he was at 1.324 after 12 games in June.  For July he was .815 in 27 games.   I get your point.   Lets see but Ortiz shows no signs of slowing down.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=newhada01&year=2004&t=b

Edited August 6, 2022 by RZNJ

[Frobby]

Ortiz, my player of the month for July, hit  .417/.533/.792 the first week of August, with 11 runs scored, 2 homers and 11 RBI.

Edited August 8, 2022 by Frobby

[justD]

Tonight's broadcaster notes that he's on a 17-game hit streak.  That in the last 30 games he's hit .400, and that half of those 30 games were multi-hit games. 

Nice. 

[Il BuonO]

1 minute ago, justD said:

Tonight's broadcaster notes that he's on a 17-game hit streak.  That in the last 30 games he's hit .400, and that half of those 30 games were multi-hit games. 

Nice. 

Getting caught up….he also made a nice play in the 5-6 hole to get an out. 

[Il BuonO]

On 8/8/2022 at 1:03 AM, Frobby said:

Ortiz, my player of the month for July, hit  .417/.533/.792 the first week of August, with 11 runs scored, 2 homers and 11 RBI.

Tepid, huh?

[waroriole]

8 minutes ago, justD said:

Tonight's broadcaster notes that he's on a 17-game hit streak.  That in the last 30 games he's hit .400, and that half of those 30 games were multi-hit games. 

Nice. 

Modest 17 game hit streak?

[justD]

 

[emmett16]

He pinged a ball of first base last night to extend his streak to 18 games.  

[baltfan]

On 8/11/2022 at 7:09 PM, justD said:

 

I haven’t seen Ortiz play.  Obviously, I have seen this play but for those that have seen Ortiz is he a Mateo-level fielder?  I know the hitting upside is higher. 

Edited August 13, 2022 by baltfan

[LookinUp]

3 hours ago, baltfan said:

I haven’t seen Ortiz play.  Obviously, I have seen this play but for those that have seen Ortiz is he a Mateo-level fielder?  I know the hitting upside is higher. 

I’ll nitpick. Not about Ortiz, but about Mateo. Mateo’s a former too 100 prospect (I think) who’s a tremendous defender, plus plus runner and has power. His upside is elite, but he hasn’t tapped into it until the last couple of months.

As good as Ortiz might be, that hit tool will have to be pretty great to have more pure upside than Mateo.

[baltfan]

2 hours ago, LookinUp said:

I’ll nitpick. Not about Ortiz, but about Mateo. Mateo’s a former too 100 prospect (I think) who’s a tremendous defender, plus plus runner and has power. His upside is elite, but he hasn’t tapped into it until the last couple of months.

As good as Ortiz might be, that hit tool will have to be pretty great to have more pure upside than Mateo.

I understand what you are saying but Ortiz walks and Mateo doesn’t, that limits Mateo’s upside

[Alasdaire]

4 hours ago, LookinUp said:

I’ll nitpick. Not about Ortiz, but about Mateo. Mateo’s a former too 100 prospect (I think) who’s a tremendous defender, plus plus runner and has power. His upside is elite, but he hasn’t tapped into it until the last couple of months.

As good as Ortiz might be, that hit tool will have to be pretty great to have more pure upside than Mateo.

Scouts were pretty split on Mateo coming up. MLB Pipeline had him top-50, while Keith Law didn't have him ranked.

[CharmCityHokie]

7 hours ago, baltfan said:

I understand what you are saying but Ortiz walks and Mateo doesn’t, that limits Mateo’s upside

To be fair, Mateo's Double AA BB% was 8.4%. Ortiz's BB percentage at AA is 7.8%. And Mateo was two years younger than Ortiz in AA.