Roch: Showalter met with an ownership representative and should already know his fate.

[mdbdotcom]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Is that gluten free?

[Moose Milligan]

Just now, Dark Helmet said:

I agree. I think it's Earl and then Buck. For me, Buck did more with less. He didn't inherit a good team and he wasn't given the roster Davey Johnson was.

Davey wasn't here long enough (unfortunately) for me to consider him.  But I don't think he could have done much with the 98 and onward rosters.  Would have been interesting, though.

[Chavez Ravine]

I think it is hard to comparatively judge managers. They are even more subject to the peculiarities of their times than the players are. If they can coax coordinated performance out of players (no matter how talented or not they are on paper), they get a thumbs up in my book. Very rarely an Earl comes along, but I think far less frequently so than people want to proclaim.

[Tx Oriole]

11 hours ago, mdbdotcom said:

From Roch's blog this morning. AJ calls it the end of an era. Apparently, the FO isn't leaving him to twist in the wind. Good.

How long before we know Bucks fate? 

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, Tx Oriole said:

How long before we know Bucks fate? 

Knowing the O's, when someone else announces they hired him.

[spiritof66]

I agree it's hard to compare and rank managers, especially across different eras, but Paul Richards (as manager from 1955-61, and GM from '55-'58) was instrumental in building the first competitive teams in Baltimore. 

[mdbdotcom]

10 minutes ago, Tx Oriole said:

How long before we know Bucks fate? 

Beats me. Soon, I hope.

[Tx Oriole]

15 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:

Beats me. Soon, I hope.

Me too. 

[Dr. Unk]

You can't polish a turd, and for the most part, that's what Buck was given to field a team.

[fansince1988]

I attended today’s game, and was surprised at the lack of any acknowledgement of Buck. He wasn’t even shown on the video board, kind of a head-scratcher. 

[Bird Dog]

1 hour ago, Dr. Unk said:

You can't polish a turd, and for the most part, that's what Buck was given to field a team.

You can, but when you get done, all you have is a shiny turd.

[OriolesMagic83]

7 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

Most usually do. 

Time for some fresh air.  IMO, Buck is the 2nd best manager in Orioles history.

I agree with Buck being 2nd best manager too.

[Elbren]

An ownership "representative".   Am I the only one bothered by the sound of that?

He's the only winning manager this team has had in almost 20 years ... Is Angelos (or his son's) really THAT busy that they can't afford to have a sit down w/ Buck? 

[Can_of_corn]

2 hours ago, Elbren said:

An ownership "representative".   Am I the only one bothered by the sound of that?

He's the only winning manager this team has had in almost 20 years ... Is Angelos (or his son's) really THAT busy that they can't afford to have a sit down w/ Buck? 

He has lost more than he won here.

Or did you mean only manager with a winning season?

[Jules]

9 hours ago, fansince1988 said:

I attended today’s game, and was surprised at the lack of any acknowledgement of Buck. He wasn’t even shown on the video board, kind of a head-scratcher. 

Maybe that was his choice? Disappointing regardless. 

Sounds like the Angels gave Mike Scioscia a weekend long tribute/sendoff.