Milone Trade Complete

[Just Regular]

9 minutes ago, OFFNY said:

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Cullen had 25 Hit-By-Pitches in 568 Plate Appearances in his most recent season (2019) ........ that sounds pretty high.

He also had 71 Walks in those 568 Plate Appearances ........ that combination wound up propelling his OBP (.393) significantly higher than his already very respectable .270 Batting Average.

 

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You can’t hit your way into a scrappy gamer rep.

[Roll Tide]

I think we should be happy get 2 of their top 100 in a strong farm system for Tommy Freakin Malone.

 

I’m interested to see where Graff ranks in our top 30.

[Can_of_corn]

10 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

I think we should be happy get 2 of their top 100 in a strong farm system for Tommy Freakin Malone.

 

I’m interested to see where Graff ranks in our top 30.

I don't think anyone is arguing that the O's should have received a better return.

[hoosiers]

Getting a top 25 prospect for 3 awful starts of Tommy Milone is a nice return IMO.  

Maybe our FO really liked these guys .... not complaining, but would rather have a couple international prospects or "lottery tickets" as folks here like to say.

[Can_of_corn]

Just now, hoosiers said:

Getting a top 25 prospect for 3 awful starts of Tommy Milone is a nice return IMO.  

Maybe our FO really liked these guys .... not complaining, but would rather have a couple international prospects or "lottery tickets" as folks here like to say.

Might be an issue of limited slots for those guys in the low minors.  At some point you need to find places for them to play.

[Tony-OH]

Cullen kinda reminds me of a left-handed hitting second base Toby Welk. An overachieving hit-first guy.

https://www.talkingchop.com/2019/8/14/20800461/atlanta-braves-time-to-pay-attention-to-milb-prospect-greg-cullen

Graffanino doesn't appear to be any kind of prospect based off his lack of power and speed but could have some utility value if his defense at SS is as good as reported.

[Frobby]

For me the headline here is that Elias continues to stock the system with middle infielders.   Here’s the MI in our 2018 OH top 30:  Bannon (18), Hall (19), Grenier (23), Carmona (25).    

Here’s our system now: Henderson (5), Westburg (8), Vavra (13), Hernaiz (19), Hall (21), Servideo (26), Bannon (29).    Grenier and Carmona are still in our system too, but not able to crack the top 30. 

Add to those guys Cullen and several Dominican middle infielders acquired by Elias who appear to be legit but haven’t had their chance to come stateside.   I’m not saying any of those guys deserve top 30 status, but they might.    

The MI competition next year will be fierce!    Great job by Elias in turning a weakness into a strength in two years.   

[Jammer7]

I recall Graffanino was supposed to drafted around round 3 per Baseball America’s 2018 pre draft writeup, but slid some late and signed for an overslot deal in round 8. He’s athletic and twitchy, good glove, above average arm, average runner. He was injured in 2018 and had a serious gastrointestinal issue for the entire 2019 season per mlbpipeline.com. Their writeup of him, where they ranked him #23 in the Braves system, said he got much stronger during 2020 and impressed in instructs. They then took down his profile when I went to post it. He is not ranked in our top 30, and I do not think he will be right now. He’s got a lot to prove, but I would not say he is a non prospect just yet. Probably a UT profile, unless the bat improves dramatically. 

I saw him play a few times on tv at Washington and I remembered being impressed by his surprising quickness and overall defensive ability. He looked gap to gap, more of a slasher then. Reminded me of Flash, a thin high-waisted  long lever body type. 

[Moose Milligan]

Not surprised the return for Milone are org guys.  Not mad at it, it just is what it is.

[Aristotelian]

Based on how Milone pitched (predictably) for the Braves, we would have won this deal with a bag of balls coming back. Sounds like we did a little better than that. 

[ChosenOne21]

Yeah, I saw some article about how pissed Braves fans must be seeing what they gave up for Tommy Milone, and I almost did a double take. I mean, if we gave away Toby Welk and slightly better Cadyn Greiner for nothing I wouldn't be happy about it, but upset/pissed would be far too strong of a word to describe my feelings

[Ripken]

I was happy with the original return for Milone: Milone not being an Oriole anymore.

[scOtt]

1 hour ago, ChosenOne21 said:

Yeah, I saw some article about how pissed Braves fans must be seeing what they gave up for Tommy Milone, and I almost did a double take. I mean, if we gave away Toby Welk and slightly better Cadyn Greiner for nothing I wouldn't be happy about it, but upset/pissed would be far too strong of a word to describe my feelings

Similar to us fans on the Andrew Miller trade. Granted that was bigger and Eduardo turned out to be a major loss. But we gave up decent prospects for a pitcher who only helped marginally the year of the trade, then gone.

[scOtt]

13 minutes ago, scOtt said:

Similar to us fans on the Andrew Miller trade. Granted that was bigger and Eduardo turned out to be a major loss. But we gave up decent prospects for a pitcher who only helped marginally the year of the trade, then gone.

Playoff races make teams make desperate trades.

[ChosenOne21]

27 minutes ago, scOtt said:

Similar to us fans on the Andrew Miller trade. Granted that was bigger and Eduardo turned out to be a major loss. But we gave up decent prospects for a pitcher who only helped marginally the year of the trade, then gone.

Nah, ERod was a much better prospect than either of the guys we got from the Braves. And unlike Tommy Milone, Andrew Miller was a huge asset for us that year

I wouldn't call either of the guys we got from the Braves, Greiner or Welk "decent prospects." Some of them are arguably prospects, but not anything to be even a little excited about