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I may be dead wrong, but I feel like Voth deserves more credit should first be given a legit chance to lose his starting role. He put up a 1.8 fWAR / ERA+ of 132 in four months of 2022, making him our second-best starter behind Kremer. Maybe it was a flash in the pan, but he looked better than Wells or many of the other in-house names being thrown around. 

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3 minutes ago, InsideCoroner said:

I may be dead wrong, but I feel like Voth deserves more credit should first be given a legit chance to lose his starting role. He put up a 1.8 fWAR / ERA+ of 132 in four months of 2022, making him our second-best starter behind Kremer. Maybe it was a flash in the pan, but he looked better than Wells or many of the other in-house names being thrown around. 

I agree, I think he earned an opportunity to lose a starting role.  His turnaround was well documented and, IMO, perhaps real.  There was an article that was posted that explained the changes that the Orioles made as soon as he got to Baltimore made an impact.

Whether it carries over from last year to this year remains to be seen but I'd like to see him be given the opportunity.

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1 minute ago, Moose Milligan said:

I agree, I think he earned an opportunity to lose a starting role.  His turnaround was well documented and, IMO, perhaps real.  There was an article that was posted that explained the changes that the Orioles made as soon as he got to Baltimore made an impact.

Whether it carries over from last year to this year remains to be seen but I'd like to see him be given the opportunity.

I would probably prefer that to any of the remaining free agent SPs. Same goes for Wells.

The time and opportunity to meaningfully improve the 2023 team via free agency has passed, so unless a major trade is in the offing, might as well just go with one of our internal options instead of bringing in some washed up veteran like Archer or Pineda just because their name used to mean something.

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14 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I agree, I think he earned an opportunity to lose a starting role.  His turnaround was well documented and, IMO, perhaps real.  There was an article that was posted that explained the changes that the Orioles made as soon as he got to Baltimore made an impact.

Whether it carries over from last year to this year remains to be seen but I'd like to see him be given the opportunity.

I’m not down on Voth. I’m more concerned that giving games away because our SP depth is Spenser Watkins. Watkins made 20 starts for us last year. It’s his performance that I don’t think is repeatable. I also doubt that Wells can hold up as a SP. I’d rather have him be bullpen weapon than on the IL half the season. 

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30 minutes ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:

The free agent pitcher consolation prizes sounds about right for the Orioles. 

It's absolutely hilarious in hindsight that we were seriously talking about guys like Bassitt and Taillon a few weeks ago. Talk about hubris 😆

32 minutes ago, HakunaSakata said:

Looking forward to Chris Archer "Pepto Bismol" Night at the Yard. 

I prefer the alliteration of "Pepto Pineda" myself.

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1 hour ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Has Grayson ever pitched consistently in a 5 man rotation without the benefit of extra rest?  We all know Bundy was better with the extra day. Maybe we give Bundy 1 yr 8 million and baby the rotation as much as possible till we get Means and/or the trade deadline. 

I don't think they can make it any more clear that they have no intention of spending money. 

 

With arb raises and basically replacing some of the names from the '22 opening day roster, I have to imagine the payroll will be similar. Of course the off season isn't over and we don't know what the arb raises will be for sure, but I think this is pretty close to what they plan on rolling with.

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