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38 minutes ago, Rbiggs2525 said:

I think Bucks best attribute back then was he gave the kids confidence they were as good as anyone. When players like Manny showed up he already talked about them as one of the best. The time had come for both parties to move on. 

There was no doubt how the culture changed when Buck was hired. He was the perfect person for the job at the time. I’m glad he was one of our guys. 

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4 hours ago, Frobby said:

Watching that game last night, I couldn’t help but feel sorry for Buck.  It’s gotta be deja vu for him, playing out the string with a crappy team, knowing he’s probably gone when the season ends, if not before.   

That play by Marte on O’Hearn’s single was just pathetic.  Does the guy even care?   Meanwhile we’ve got Hays making sliding catches in foul territory while the team is up 7 runs in the 9th.  
 

That was a weird play. My son and the play by play guy thought maybe there was a miscommunication. I was wondering if he was perhaps trying to deke the runners into thinking it would be caught. Marte had a terrible game with his throws as well, Gunnar took two extra bases on him by himself.

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15 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Buck walked Barry Bonds with the bases loaded.   I find his current comments very weak.  He was a good manager.  That night he tried to do something outside the box and it backfired.    He won’t own it all of these years later.   The man’s ego is a lot bigger than people think.

Not sure what Bonds has to do with anything here, but yeah, he walked Bonds with the bases loaded.....and it worked.  Roided Bonds was very possibly the most dangerous hitter of all time.  Would you rather pitch to Barry Bonds (.500 career BA against Olson btw) or Brent Mayne with the bases loaded?

And as far as his ego, you probably don't get to the level of success that he has without it.  Pretty sure ole' Earl was also full of it.

 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, waroriole said:

There was no doubt how the culture changed when Buck was hired. He was the perfect person for the job at the time. I’m glad he was one of our guys. 

Absolutely. I don't remember the exact record for the rest of that first season, but things changed the day he walked through the door. It was a 180 from day 1.

2012 and 2014 were glorious. Opening day games felt like playoff games. Playoff games felt like WS games. My ears are still ringing from Delmon's double. It was nothing short of magical. Buck pulled everything he could out of the roster he had.....Chris Tillman was our ace for crying out loud. 

As a 43 year old who has witnessed mostly cringey baseball, I'll always be grateful.

Baltimore fans have short memories and are impossible to please. I think there must be some kinda wonky chemical compound in crab mustard that eats away at the brain.

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42 minutes ago, CP0861 said:

Absolutely. I don't remember the exact record for the rest of that first season, but things changed the day he walked through the door. It was a 180 from day 1.

2012 and 2014 were glorious. Opening day games felt like playoff games. Playoff games felt like WS games. My ears are still ringing from Delmon's double. It was nothing short of magical. Buck pulled everything he could out of the roster he had.....Chris Tillman was our ace for crying out loud. 

As a 43 year old who has witnessed mostly cringey baseball, I'll always be grateful.

Baltimore fans have short memories and are impossible to please. I think there must be some kinda wonky chemical compound in crab mustard that eats away at the brain.

Couldn't have said it any better.  Especially two paragraphs.

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19 hours ago, Birds08 said:

Also remembering the "cavalry" that was supposedly coming in 2010/2011 [spoiler alert: it never came].  Buck brought us back without our best prospects panning out, at least in the roles we hoped they would.  Matusz, Loewen, Spoone, Erbe, Bergesen, Arrieta, Britton [as a SP] etc

Maybe I'm off here, but I, in my own head, don't include Loewen and Bergesen in our failed prospects list.  "Got hurt, had performance tanked or stopped by said injury, and had to retire from pitching" doesn't have anywhere near the same failure weight to me as a guy who worked his way to the majors and then really didn't get it done after being given a full opportunity at full health.

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Just now, JimGinSP said:

Everybody wants to talk Ubaldo.  I say get Buck to talk about his recruitment trip in the General Lee to Colby Rasmus’ plantation in order to get him to come play here!  Right @Moose Milligan ? (j/k)

I hope Colby Rasmus gets up tomorrow and has to drive 20 minutes to a Chick Fil A, only to get there and realize it's a Sunday.

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1 hour ago, CP0861 said:

Not sure what Bonds has to do with anything here, but yeah, he walked Bonds with the bases loaded.....and it worked.  Roided Bonds was very possibly the most dangerous hitter of all time.  Would you rather pitch to Barry Bonds (.500 career BA against Olson btw) or Brent Mayne with the bases loaded?

And as far as his ego, you probably don't get to the level of success that he has without it.  Pretty sure ole' Earl was also full of it.

 

 

 

The Bonds thing was an example of thinking outside the box.  I used it as analogy of his going with Ubaldo there instead of Britton.   He would have looked good if Ubaldo held the other team scoreless for 2-3 innings, the O’s score a run and Britton comes in for the save.   That was the strategy. I’ve never killed him for it.  IIRC correctly it looked like our offense would never score again and Ubaldo or someone other than Britton would have had to pitch even if Britton.  
 

My issue with Buck is all of the secret talk now as if someone else screwed up somehow.

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My favorite Buck moment was when Machado got hit by a pitch. Things got very chippy and the dug outs cleared. This was post bat toss. Machado was still young but had developed a bad reputation around the league. Machado went to first and Buck stood in front of him with his arms crossed like a father protecting his son. That image of them at first base is very vivid though I can’t recall the other team. Red Sox maybe?

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4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

The Bonds thing was an example of thinking outside the box.  I used it as analogy of his going with Ubaldo there instead of Britton.   He would have looked good if Ubaldo held the other team scoreless for 2-3 innings, the O’s score a run and Britton comes in for the save.   That was the strategy. I’ve never killed him for it.  IIRC correctly it looked like our offense would never score again and Ubaldo or someone other than Britton would have had to pitch even if Britton.  
 

My issue with Buck is all of the secret talk now as if someone else screwed up somehow.

Britton should have been good for two innings in that game — maybe three if he doesn’t throw a lot of pitches. It’s a winner-take-all game, so you got to do things you wouldn’t do in an ordinary game. Buck should have known that. Bringing in Ubaldo before Britton just wasn’t a good strategy even if it was clear what he was going for. 

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The camera cutting to Buck on the railing numerous times were my kid's favorite part of the game last night.

 

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They didn't have any idea who he was to the Os, but the contemplative seething Buck with the classic head tilt move, where the viewer at home can feel his blood pressure soar... It's like a living meme.

I could've used a few more, actually, like when it seemed the Os were piling it on (McCann's steal) but I think the production team must've stopped out of respect.

 

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