O's Trim Roster by 8; Reimold among the casualties

[LookinUp]

Luke goes down for a month. Pie does not start in Left?

Correct. They would likely call Reimold up and start him in left (assuming Pie's not tearing it up and Reimold is, in AAA).

I don't get the Pie (defense) or Vlad (big bat) blame. For whatever reason, Reimold's the one who didn't perform last year and made it unclear whether we could rely on him this year.

I want him on the team, but it's his own fault that he's not. Not AM's fault. Not Pie's fault. Not Fox's, or Tatum's, or Scott's.

[Can_of_corn]

And Vlad put up a .841 OPS last year and .960 OPS this spring. Reimold will get his shot this year at some point. Unfortunately the season he had last year cost him an opportunity this year because the team couldn't just assume a comeback. We now have depth at AAA in not only pitching, but also with some power in Reimold.

I think it is more likely

Unfortunately PA's infatuation with Vlad cost him an opportunity this year.

Signing Vlad for 8 million to DH does not strike me as an AM move.

[MurphDogg]

He said if Pie had an option Reimold would be the 4th OF. My point was even if you sent Pie down(which I wouldn't do) you would still need a 4th OF, because Reimold isn't one. Try reading the other posts preceding, I don't think it's that hard to follow.

Yeah, I see what you are saying now but it wasn't all that clear in context. Pie's option status has no impact on whether he is on the team entering this season. I do agree that if Pie were injured that Angle might be the next man up (though I would prefer the Orioles bring Winn back). Thanks for the reading comprehension tip though.

[Coker]

Why is everyone so infatuated with having someone who can spell Jones in CF. This is just plain ridiculous.

Trivia Question : Who spelled Paul Blair on the championship teams of the 60's and 70's????

That would be Merv Rettenmund and then Rich Coggins.

From what I can tell, neither were butchers in the OF either.

[weams]

I think it is more likely

Signing Vlad for 8 million to DH does not strike me as an AM move.

Andy MacPhail was thrilled that Peter was willing to spend the extra, non budget, money to aquire a future hall of famer for the middle of this year's lineup. It was an Andy move, blessed by PA with his money. It came out of ownership profit, unbugeted.

[SammyBirdland]

MASN seems to be kicking the hornets' nest and doing a little rabble-rousing on Facebook:

[Nick The Stick]

Nice play on words.

If I was Reimold, I would be bigtime pissed and would be playing with a chip on my shoulder. Hell, I'm NOT Reimold and I'm pissed.

:cussing:

Totally with you on this one.

:vader:

Reimold worked his butt off and outplayed Pie for that 4th OF spot. Options-smoptions. I think if Nolan was capable of cover CF, he'd totally have worked his way onto the roster.

To add to it... with Felix's speed... how come he hasn't worked to steal more bases? Nolan even forces him with that hand...

[Tony-OH]

Fair enough. So let me understand something. Pie is doing reasonably well as the 4th outfielder. Luke goes down for a month. Pie does not start in Left? They leapfrog Pie and insert Nolan as the starter? I find that hard to believe. My concern or anger is that this could end up being a lost season for a guy that belongs on a ML team and we are only going to retard him even more.

If Luke goes down for a month, it's my belief that if Reimold is smacking the ball around in Norfolk, he would see the majority of the playing time in LF, although if Pie is doing well he might have to split it up a bit. I don't see the Orioles bringing Reimold up to sit the bench.

[NCRaven]

If Reimold smacks the snot out of the ball in AAA it will have a tremendous impact in a number of ways.

1. It would allow MacPhail to make a move with any of Lee, Scott or Guerrero if another team has interest.

2. It will also raise interest in Reimold from other teams who may have a need in the outfield. Reimold isn't just playing for a spot on the Orioles, he's playing for a spot in any Major League outfield.

3. As stated, it will make him the first bat recalled if there is an injury to an outfielder, 1Bman or DH. Even if Jones goes down and Pie takes over in CF for an extended period, Reimold is much more likely to be promoted than any other outfielder. Angle is not a major league hitter. Fiorentino is pretty much AAA filler. If Reimold is slugging, he'll be the first OF'er recalled.

4. Most importantly, next season, Reimold will be the player who is out of options and will be able to force the issue.

[Tony-OH]

Totally with you on this one.

:vader:

Reimold worked his butt off and outplayed Pie for that 4th OF spot. Options-smoptions. I think if Nolan was capable of cover CF, he'd totally have worked his way onto the roster.

I think everyone agrees with you here, but I don't understand how it supports your argument. Reimold can't play CF effectively so he's not an option in that role. Quite simply Reimold never really was in competition with Pie. The only chance Reimold had of sticking was if Lee, Scott, Markakis, or Vlad got hurt.

[Tony-OH]

If Reimold smacks the snot out of the ball in AAA it will have a tremendous impact in a number of ways.

1. It would allow MacPhail to make a move with any of Lee, Scott or Guerrero if another team has interest.

2. It will also raise interest in Reimold from other teams who may have a need in the outfield. Reimold isn't just playing for a spot on the Orioles, he's playing for a spot in any Major League outfield.

3. As stated, it will make him the first bat recalled if there is an injury to an outfielder, 1Bman or DH. Even if Jones goes down and Pie takes over in CF for an extended period, Reimold is much more likely to be promoted than any other outfielder. Angle is not a major league hitter. Fiorentino is pretty much AAA filler. If Reimold is slugging, he'll be the first OF'er recalled.

4. Most importantly, next season, Reimold will be the player who is out of options and will be able to force the issue.

You were moving along quite well until you came up with this little gem. I might agree with you if you said he doesn't have the bat to be an everyday guy in the major leagues, but saying he is not a major league hitter suggests he's a AAAA guy or less and I haven't seen any reason to suggest he should get that label.

Angle is going to end up with a solid major league career in my opinion.

[weams]

You were moving along quite well until you came up with this little gem. I might agree with you if you said he doesn't have the bat to be an everyday guy in the major leagues, but saying he is not a major league hitter suggests he's a AAAA guy or less and I haven't seen any reason to suggest he should get that label.

Angle is going to end up with a solid major league career in my opinion.

I am glad you think so also

[Frobby]

Just a reminder, in 2009 Reimold wasn't on the OD roster yet he still ended the year with 411 PA in the majors. In 2010 Corey Patterson wasn't on the OD roster yet he ended up with 341 PA in the majors. These things have a way of working out.

[NCRaven]

Angle is going to end up with a solid major league career in my opinion.

I just don't think that Angle is going to be able to hit enough to hold down a major league roster spot for any length of time. Hope the youngster proves me wrong.

Does Reimold have another option after this season? If so, bad for him!

[mweb]

Here is my problem with this thinking...

The main reasons he didn't make the team are 1. Pie can backup center and apparantly that is some MAJOR concern, and 2. Pie is out of options. So tell me, if Reimold goes down to Nofolk and puts up an over 1.000 OPS, how is he going to make the team? The two things I mentioned above will not change. His ONLY shot of a call up is if Scott, Lee, or Vlad go down to injury. Him "lighting it up" in Norfolk will not force the Orioles' hand any more than him having a good spring did.

Its really a no win for Reimold at this point unless one of the three above get injured.

I guess I fail to see the problem there.

If you have an issue with Nolan not being on the team, your issue should be with the signings of Lee and Vlad or not trading Luke. If one of those guys weren't on the team, Nolan would have a spot.

Nolan isn't really competing with Pie because he doesn't bring the same things to the table.

If he was on the team instead of a 3rd catcher or 2nd utility IF (because that's where his spot is going) how often would he play when everyone is healthy? The answer is very likely not often at all.

I think there's a pretty good chance that at least one of Vlad, Lee, or Scott will get hurt or be traded and that will open up a spot for Nolan.