Roy Halladay

[Crazysilver03]

What do the Phillies do with him. He has given up 17 runs to the Indians and Marlins in his last 2 starts. He owns an 8.5 ERA on the year.

Do they dump him in the bullpen, DL him? You can't stick with him much more.

[waroriole]

The guy is clearly injured. You don't go from the best pitcher in baseball to mediocre AAA in 2 years unless something happens physically.

[backwardsk]

The Orioles radio broadcast stated that he is scheduled to see Dr. Yokum (sp?). So probably DL.

[Can_of_corn]

What do the Phillies do with him. He has given up 17 runs to the Indians and Marlins in his last 2 starts. He owns an 8.5 ERA on the year.

Do they dump him in the bullpen, DL him? You can't stick with him much more.

David Murphy ‏

I'll have a story up on Halladay's shoulder discomfort ASAP. DL is inevitable. Sounds like they need to make a 40 man roster move

[ShaneDawg85]

The years and the innings seem like they've started to take their toll.

[ChrisP]

Sad to see from a real Bulldog/old school type of pitcher. Hope he just needs rest..

[Don_Aase_Fan]

Roy Halladay to have shoulder surgery; could still pitch this year

[Can_of_corn]

Roy Halladay to have shoulder surgery; could still pitch this year

Doc Halladay to undergo shoulder surgery for partially torn rotator cuff, frayed labrum and bone spurs.

Somehow I am not optimistic that he can back this season.

[backwardsk]

When you get a moment, compare the return that the Blue Jays have seen from the Halladay trade and its derivatives to that of the Bedard trade.

This is the 4th season from the trade and they have:

Kyle Drabek: 30 starts, 167 IP; 5.34 ERA; 80 ERA+; elbow surgery

R.A. Dickey via Travis D'Arnaud: 7 starts, 42 IP; 5.36 ERA; 79 ERA+; 38 years old $30M commitment

Anthony Gose via Brett Wallace via Michael Taylor: 21years old, 189 PA .622 OPS.

This is what I'd consider the core return for Halladay, maybe the best pitcher in the world at the time of the trade. They also had more parts from the Mets trade where they gave up additional prospects, received more prospects and John Buck and Buck was used in the Miami blockbuster.

Now the Bedard return:

Adam Jones: 3112 PA; .787 OPS; 108 HR; 384 RBI; 2 time All-Star; 2 time Gold Glove

Chris Tillman: 57 starts; 301.1 IP; 4.60 ERA; 93 ERA+; 25 years old

George Sherrill: 94.2 IP; 3.71 ERA; 122 ERA+; 51 saves; 1 All-Star

Steve Johnson: 4 starts; 38.1 IP; 2.11 ERA; 201 ERA+; 25 years old

You could also add Josh Bell and Kam Mickolio if you choose. Kam was also part of the pair that brought back Mark Reynolds.

Gose may break out and be a star and Drabek may recovery from injury. But when comparing the Halladay trade versus the Bedard trade, you have to be pretty pleased as an Oriole fan.