Mandatory metal detectors at Camden Yards

[DrungoHazewood]

To sum up for those too lazy to read:

The violent crime rate may indeed be higher in England than in the US.........but it's complicated. And depends on how you define violent crime.

And that leaves open the question of the consequences of said violent crime given the disparity in weapons of choice.

[Eutaw]

Got scanned once at Camden yards. Ever. Random game early this year and I've been to about 10 since.

[MrOrange82]

And that leaves open the question of the consequences of said violent crime given the disparity in weapons of choice.

If splitting hairs created audible sounds, I imagine they'd often be confused for keystrokes.

[El Gordo]

Might not be quite so clear cut.

Well what would Toby Keith have to say to that? Good thing we don't have much soccer over here. Just think what all the verbal assaults and drunken brawls produced by that detestable game, would do to our crime rates. Over here if we get upset by the out come of a football game we just pop a few caps and are done with it.

[atomic]

People on here complain about everything.

Yeah. A little wait is better than having a group of terrorists enter the game with automatic weapons or a bunch of pressure cooker bombs. Better safe than sorry.

[atomic]

Well what would Toby Keith have to say to that? Good thing we don't have much soccer over here. Just think what all the verbal assaults and drunken brawls produced by that detestable game, would do to our crime rates. Over here if we get upset by the out come of a football game we just pop a few caps and are done with it.

I think our crime rate is higher than most places that have huge soccer crowds.

[atomic]

To sum up for those too lazy to read:

The violent crime rate may indeed be higher in England than in the US.........but it's complicated. And depends on how you define violent crime.

I would say without a doubt any city in the UK is going to be much safer than Baltimore. Not even close.

[atomic]

Oh the irony, The backup created by the metal detectors made it easier for the shooter outside of the stadium.

We'll if someone wants to shoot the players it would still prevent that from occurring. Or if they want to take the stadium hostage.

[ShannieDC]

Yeah. A little wait is better than having a group of terrorists enter the game with automatic weapons

I'm guessing a well planned terrorist sortie is not going to let the ticket takers, or even the BPD around that area stop them.

[weams]

Added an extra minute. No big deal. I am used to going on government buildings on Harrisburg anyway.

[OFFNY]

Added an extra minute. No big deal. I am used to going on government buildings on Harrisburg anyway.

You're at the game, Mike ???

I'm not at the game.

You bastard.

[SilentJames]

Kates seems to disagree. It's only 44 pages of data, so not a thesis, but I believe the work.

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Actually - he agrees with me:

Quote -

In sum, though many nations with widespread gun ownership

have much lower murder rates than nations that severely restrict

gun ownership, it would be simplistic to assume that at all times

and in all places widespread gun ownership depresses violence by

deterring many criminals into nonconfrontation crime. There is

evidence that it does so in the United States, where defensive gun

ownership is a substantial socio‐cultural phenomenon. But the

more plausible explanation for many nations having widespread

gun ownership with low violence is that these nations never had

high murder and violence rates and so never had occasion to enact

severe anti‐gun laws.

[SilentJames]

To sum up for those too lazy to read:

The violent crime rate may indeed be higher in England than in the US.........but it's complicated. And depends on how you define violent crime.

Pretty much.

[MrOrange82]

Actually - he agrees with me:

Quote -

In sum, though many nations with widespread gun ownership

have much lower murder rates than nations that severely restrict

gun ownership, it would be simplistic to assume that at all times

and in all places widespread gun ownership depresses violence by

deterring many criminals into nonconfrontation crime. There is

evidence that it does so in the United States, where defensive gun

ownership is a substantial socio‐cultural phenomenon. But the

more plausible explanation for many nations having widespread

gun ownership with low violence is that these nations never had

high murder and violence rates and so never had occasion to enact

severe anti‐gun laws.

Actually, he only agrees with you completely if you suffered through a prolonged sneeze during the portions of the material that you quoted without bolding and underlining. Contrary to your original assertion, it seems that there is at least some (as opposed to "zero," as you said) evidence to back up Malike's opinions.

[weams]

You're at the game, Mike ???

I'm not at the game.

You bastard.

You should be.