Kazmir v. Gallardo

[25 Nuggets]

Maybe we are choosing between Bronson Arroyo and Cliff Lee. They might be as good or better than any other pitchers on the market.

I think it's more likely they're not, at least compared to the top ones left.

[DrungoHazewood]

Absolutely no desire for long term, expensive commitments that may include loss of a high draft pick for anyone with "< 6 K/9" attached to their name in 2016. I'd rather put Wright in the rotation next year than sign Gallardo or Leake.

[weams]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">According to reports, Kazmir has multiple three-year offers in hand worth about $12MM-$13MM per year. <a href="https://t.co/fWbCtnlTFT">https://t.co/fWbCtnlTFT</a></p>— Max Wildstein (@MaxWildstein) <a href="

">December 20, 2015</a></blockquote>

<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> SO I was wrong there are still three teams in on him.

[weams]

Where does it say three teams are interested?

Ah. Good catch I saw the three and my brain read it wrong. It may just be us and the Astros then.

[MDtransplant757]

Ah. Good catch I saw the three and my brain read it wrong. It may just be us and the Astros then.

Houston has a hometown discount and a bigger ballpark. We should go for Mike Leake!

[25 Nuggets]

Also, this one is interesting as well

5. Trevor Cahill, RHP, Cubs — Cahill had a chance to sign with the Pirates or Orioles as a starter or reliever, but opted to stay in Chicago, where he’ll be strictly a reliever. Cahill loves being with the Cubs and didn’t want to leave after he reinvented himself following a bad stint with the Braves.

Can you blame him? Besides, Joe Maddon is a magnet.

[Can_of_corn]

Can you blame him? Besides, Joe Maddon is a magnet.

Some talk was made of free agents "Wanting to play for Buck." That actually seems to be showing itself to be true with Maddon.

[25 Nuggets]

Some talk was made of free agents "Wanting to play for Buck." That actually seems to be showing itself to be true with Maddon.

For sure, but I think there's evidence of Buck love too. You never know when he'll run around the clubhouse nekkid. :clap3:

[Number5]

Ah. Good catch I saw the three and my brain read it wrong. It may just be us and the Astros then.

I would think the Dodgers are in on him.

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Rangers?src=hash">#Rangers</a> GM Jon Daniels: “If there’s the right deal, we’d still like to add to the rotation, more likely than not in the depth category.”</p>— Jon Morosi (@jonmorosi) <a href="

">December 20, 2015</a></blockquote>

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[Otter]

Absolutely no desire for long term, expensive commitments that may include loss of a high draft pick for anyone with "< 6 K/9" attached to their name in 2016. I'd rather put Wright in the rotation next year than sign Gallardo or Leake.

Exactly. K/9 rate has crashed from 9 in 2011 to 5.9 in 2015, and his average fastball velocity has dropped from 92.7 in 2011 to 90.4 in 2015. His average curveball velocity has also dropped 2 mph since 2011, suggesting more loop and less bite.

A long term contract for a pitcher on the wrong side of 30, with declining K rates and velocity, and that would cost the 14th overall pick?? No thanks. I'd rather throw in a 4th year and overpay for Kazmir; which is DD's punishment for trading away all those young, cheap, controllable pitchers.

link for stats: http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=8173&position=P

[weams]

I'd rather throw in a 4th year and overpay for Kazmir; which is DD's punishment for trading away all those young, cheap, controllable pitchers.

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So you think Dan will be here in 2020?

By the Way. Chris Lee is young controllable and left handed. He makes up for one of them. Maybe Joe Gunkel too. Possibly even Ariel Miranda.

[Number5]

So you think Dan will be here in 2020?

By the Way. Chris Lee is young controllable and left handed. He makes up for one of them. Maybe Joe Gunkel too. Possibly even Ariel Miranda.

The 4th year would be 2019. Still ne may not be here then, either.

[Otter]

So you think Dan will be here in 2020?

By the Way. Chris Lee is young controllable and left handed. He makes up for one of them. Maybe Joe Gunkel too. Possibly even Ariel Miranda.

I agree with you on Lee, but not sure about Gunkel and Miranda. Would you prefer Gunkel/Miranda over EdRod, Davies, Hader, Tarpley, Brault?

[DrungoHazewood]

So you think Dan will be here in 2020?

By the Way. Chris Lee is young controllable and left handed. He makes up for one of them. Maybe Joe Gunkel too. Possibly even Ariel Miranda.

My kid Nate is young, cost-controlled, and left-handed, so he's got that in common with the folks you mention. The attribute we forgot was "good".