If This Team Collapse For The Second Straight Year, Doesn't Buck Have To Take A Hit?

[birdcrazy]

I suspect Angelos is the one who committed all that money to Davis leaving us thrift store shopping for starters. If so, he needs to take the hit.

[OsFanSinceThe80s]

I blame Duquette first, he just doesn't have a feel on how to build a starting rotation. Buck has done a heck of job considering the rotation and injuries to the bullpen. Buck isn't perfect, but this team would be under .500 with Trembley at the helm.

[crawjo]

Why does someone have to be blamed? Maybe this is just the way it is supposed to be. The core of the team is good enough to compete, but not good enough to triumph. That's my view.

[bpilktree]

Awful, just AWFUL. Streaky hitting and simply batting practice level pitching. Atrocious.

Batting practice? Estrada is the 2nd hardest pitcher to get hits against in all of baseball.

[sportsfan8703]

Eventually this team is going to have to realize that they need a team approach at the plate. Maybe that player needs to come from the outside. Our team leader isn't going to lead anyone by example. And I love the dude.

[CheeryO]

This team needs more pitching talent. We had it, and Duquette traded it away for short term "fixes". At the time he made each trade it may have seemed the risk was worth taking, but in hindsight they were lousy trades. If anyone gets fired in the near future it will be Duquette, not Buck. Having said that Duquette has a tougher job. Knowing what he's had to work with and guessing Angelos has a "win now" agenda, I'm not sure how Duquette could have done much better.

[crawjo]

Eventually this team is going to have to realize that they need a team approach at the plate. Maybe that player needs to come from the outside. Our team leader isn't going to lead anyone by example. And I love the dude.

Imagine if our power hitters worked counts the way Kim does. That's the real difference in my mind between our lineup and the Blue Jays or Red Sox. We are overly aggressive and don't put enough pressure on the pitcher.

[Three Run Homer]

Batting practice? Estrada is the 2nd hardest pitcher to get hits against in all of baseball.

I think he meant that OUR pitching is batting practice caliber. Not tonight, but certainly in games 1 and 2 this past weekend.

[TINSTAAPP]

I blame Duquette first, he just doesn't have a feel on how to build a starting rotation. Buck has done a heck of job considering the rotation and injuries to the bullpen. Buck isn't perfect, but this team would be under .500 with Trembley at the helm.

Buck's pitching coaches destroyed Jake Arrieta's development and they almost ruined Chris Tillman. He's just as much at fault for the poor rotation as Dan is.

[Uli2001]

Club has a starting pitching ERA of 5. Team went 19-9 in a month where they allowed 5 runs a game with a starters ERA of 5.56. Club has 4 pitchers with double digit starts and an ERA over 5. On paper we have no business contending.

Pitching is bad and deserves a lot of blame, but it has been bad all year, while the team was in first place. The second-half decline is all on the offense. Very streaky, no speed, low OBP.

[Uli2001]

Boston has had losing records three of the past 4 seasons. I wouldn't want one World Series and 3 losing seasons. "Life is a journey not a destination". Enjoy the trip.

I'd say most fans would make that trade. I know I would.

[El Gordo]

Imagine if our power hitters worked counts the way Kim does. That's the real difference in my mind between our lineup and the Blue Jays or Red Sox. We are overly aggressive and don't put enough pressure on the pitcher.

If they didn't ,they wouldn't be power hitters. How many HR does Kim have with his approach? Do you not like Earls?

[El Gordo]

Reading comprehension. I said our pitching has been batting practice quality lately.

Miley wasn't pitching BP. neither was Gausman. How late is lately?

[LookitsPuck]

Miley wasn't pitching BP. neither was Gausman. How late is lately?

Last 28 days: .282/.350/.470 - .819 OPS, 5.45 ERA, 1.511 WHIP, 36 homers in 223 IP (1.5 HR/9)

[El Gordo]

Last 28 days: .282/.350/.470 - .819 OPS, 5.45 ERA, 1.511 WHIP, 36 homers in 223 IP (1.5 HR/9)

The last two G he has been good. SSS. He wasn't the problem tonight Debbie.