File and Trial Arbitrations?

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, alaniee said:

I like Manny over Josh.

In the future, yes.   But Josh has been a beast the last 4-5 years, and better than Manny.   So for a one-year arbitration, Josh gets more.    Also, this is his 4th year of arbitration as he has nearly 6 years of service.    That matters a lot.

[Babypowder]

Just now, alaniee said:

I like Manny over Josh.

As free agents I'd of course take Manny because of age. I expect Donaldson to be the better player in 2018, as he has been for the last 5 seasons in a row.

[weams]

 

[alaniee]

I doubt Donaldson will have a great year. I believe he's on the decline for some reason. Just my gut feeling, I don't see him having the beast years he had a few years ago. He's been injured and for some reason I feel that will continue. Who knows, he will go on to have a beast year! Hope not though...

 

Manny on the other hand, I am confident he will continue to put up the same numbers he usually does. 150+ hits, 30+ HR, close to 100 RBIs

 

Really wish a miracle would happen and we could sign Manny to a long term contract. highly doubtful as we all know but who knows. We can only hope! At the same time, no player in my opinion will ever be worth a 300+ million contract.

[Babypowder]

6 minutes ago, alaniee said:

I doubt Donaldson will have a great year. I believe he's on the decline for some reason. Just my gut feeling, I don't see him having the beast years he had a few years ago. He's been injured and for some reason I feel that will continue. Who knows, he will go on to have a beast year! Hope not though...

 

Manny on the other hand, I am confident he will continue to put up the same numbers he usually does. 150+ hits, 30+ HR, close to 100 RBIs

 

Really wish a miracle would happen and we could sign Manny to a long term contract. highly doubtful as we all know but who knows. We can only hope! At the same time, no player in my opinion will ever be worth a 300+ million contract.

A few years ago? He was a beast just last season. He was a 5 win player, slashed .270/.385/.559 for a 149 wRC+, and hit 33 homers in only 113 games.

Comparatively, Manny was worth ~3 wins, slashed .259/.310/.471 for a 102 wRC+, and also hit 33 homers in 156 games.

[weams]

 

[Can_of_corn]

Wonder if Caleb is going to want to go for round two after losing last year?

[Can_of_corn]

7 minutes ago, Babypowder said:

A few years ago? He was a beast just last season. He was a 5 win player, slashed .270/.385/.559 for a 149 wRC+, and hit 33 homers in only 113 games.

Comparatively, Manny was worth ~3 wins, slashed .259/.310/.471 for a 102 wRC+, and also hit 33 homers in 156 games.

 

[weams]

 

[weams]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Wonder if Caleb is going to want to go for round two after losing last year?

Nope. 1.25

[weams]

 

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:

Wonder if Caleb is going to want to go for round two after losing last year?

I thought MLBTR's $1.4 mm estimate for him was very low.   

Optimistic spin of the hour: we haven't heard about Schoop and Gausman because the O's are wrapping up longer-term deals for each of them. 

[Luke-OH]

1 minute ago, weams said:

 

A Schoop/Gausman double extension would make me happy.

[Babypowder]

2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

 

Right, this began with me justifying Donaldson getting more money than Manny. Apparently, there are Orioles fans who don't realize he's pretty clearly been the better player.

[Frobby]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

I thought MLBTR's $1.4 mm estimate for [Joseph] was very low.   

 

2 minutes ago, weams said:

Nope. 1.25

Shows what I know.    I think Caleb was very cowed by what happened last year.