Jump to content

at. YANKEES, 10/01

Sessh

By Sessh
in Game Threads

Recommended Posts

Tony-OH Hangout Grand Counsel

Tony-OH

Posted
Posted
Exactly. Nobody is quitting anything. I will be here rooting for this team long after Buck Showalter has gone on to his retirement. But this is not the only poorly managed game he has had this season. Not even in the last month. He lost important games and now a critical game doing this exact same thing, leaving a pitcher in that had no business, none, zero, being in the game. And now when we finish out by one game, he will blame it subtly on the players not doing what they were "supposed to do." He needs to come in to that press conference today and say "I lost that game. Me, not anybody else." Otherwise, he is just another politician talking out of both sides of his mouth.

He'll never do that. He'll give his Buck speak, no one will follow up question him, and they'll all move on.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Replies 802
  • Created
  • Last Reply
SteveA Hangout Grand Counsel

SteveA

Posted
Posted
Buck Showalter is what he is. He has his teams playing over .500 baseball, making the playoffs occasionally, but he does NOT win. It's his track records. The Orioles knew this and at that point, desperately needing winning baseball back, it was the right move. The question becomes, do they want to take the next step?

I disagree. I think we wouldn't even be where we are with most other managers.

I disagree with leaving Miley out in the 7th too. Although in hindsight, several guys from the pen melted down so going to the pen sooner probably wouldn't have mattered.

But I still believe over the course of the season, when Buck leaves his starters in "too long", it's generally for the good

Sometimes the starter blows it, and everyone says see I told you so. Of course you have no idea what the reliever would have done. The other team has major league hitters, they might well have beaten the reliever too.

And often despite half the game thread saying get him out, the starter gets out of the jam.

Meanwhile, we have had fantastic bullpen, best in baseball, in September, and I think that is BECAUSE of how Buck manages all season. Yeah, they blew it today, but they've been the best pen in MLB the last month+.

I think you'd be surprised at the results with another manager. And not pleasantly.

And I say all that despite agreeing that Miley should not have pitched the 7th.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Norfolk orioles Hangout Grand Counsel

Norfolk orioles

Posted
Posted
My God you don't want him using Brach this late into season? How many RH hitters has Hart faced?! Now he is a shutdown lefty? Come on.

I don't want Buck to pull hart against refsnyder for brach to pitch against Ellsbury.

Apparently Buck isn't the only one having trouble with common sense here.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Norfolk orioles Hangout Grand Counsel

Norfolk orioles

Posted
Posted
I don't think you know what a rant is. Also he hit a ball about 800 feet yesterday.

He's 13/78 since he made that statement. Baring .166 with 2 home runs at the top of the lineup.

Correlation does not equal causation but it also doesn't look good at all.

Bourn should be leading off with Kim hitting second.

More bad managing tbh.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
LA2 Hangout Grand Counsel

LA2

Posted
Posted
Yes. Saying that he's been in a bad slump since his idiotic remarks is true. Look it up. Sounding like you're a chick from the movie "Clueless" saying "puh-LEASE" is not a quality response. Understand now?

Let me help you understand a little more. You were implying there's a causal relation between his remarks and his performance as a major league hitter. Perhaps I missed the point, but I remain "clueless" as to what you were positing that relation is. Do you believe that if a ballplayer expresses what I'm sure to him was an obvious observation drawn from the lived facts of his long and successful professional career, he will suddenly be incapable of focusing on his profession?

How is it, in the first place, that you assume everyone here agrees that his remarks were "idiotic?" I can assure you that this is certainly not the case.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Moshagge3 Hangout Grand Counsel

Moshagge3

Posted
Posted
I disagree. I think we wouldn't even be where we are with most other managers.

I disagree with leaving Miley out in the 7th too. Although in hindsight, several guys from the pen melted down so going to the pen sooner probably wouldn't have mattered.

Who besides Brach? Are you talking about Drake? Because any game plan that involves Oliver Drake pitching a crucial inning is a game plan that's already up in flames.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Dark Helmet Hangout Grand Counsel

Dark Helmet

Posted
Posted
Let me help you understand a little more. You were implying there's a causal relation between his remarks and his performance as a major league hitter. Perhaps I missed the point, but I remain "clueless" as to what you were positing that relation is. Do you believe that if a ballplayer expresses what I'm sure to him was an obvious observation drawn from the lived facts of his long and successful professional career, he will suddenly be incapable of focusing on his profession?

How is it, in the first place, that you assume everyone here agrees that his remarks were "idiotic?" I can assure you that this is certainly not the case.

I personally think Jones comments were idiotic. And I'm a lesser fan of his now.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mdlmark A-Ball

mdlmark

Posted
Posted
He's 13/78 since he made that statement. Baring .166 with 2 home runs at the top of the lineup.

Correlation does not equal causation but it also doesn't look good at all.

Bourn should be leading off with Kim hitting second.

More bad managing tbh.

Agree, Jones pissed off the baseball Gods!

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

Go to topic listing
×
×
  • Create New...