Jonah Heim, Hero

[HowAboutThat]

7 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’ve noticed you frequently move the decimal point on players you don’t like.  It’s 0.2 fWAR, not .02.   

Meanwhile, BB-ref has it 0.6 for Severino, 0.0 for Heim.   

But, I don’t think anyone should discount defense.   It’s very important.  I checked three different framing metrics to see if Fangraphs was an outlier, and it’s not.  Heim is very strong by all three measures.   And nobody doubts that Severino is bad at it.  

 

I don’t move the decimal on purpose, I just misplace it. I’m not at all being deceptive, and you should know that. What’s the point or purpose of lying, especially when anyone can look it up?

Regarding WAR, I know that BB and Fangraphs are different, but as long as I use the same one for comparison purposes(and I always use fangraphs) it shouldn't make any difference. I prefer using fangraphs.

[Frobby]

10 minutes ago, Philip said:

I don’t move the decimal on purpose, I just misplace it. I’m not at all being deceptive, and you should know that. What’s the point or purpose of lying, especially when anyone can look it up?

Regarding WAR, I know that BB and Fangraphs are different, but as long as I use the same one for comparison purposes(and I always use fangraphs) it shouldn't make any difference. I prefer using fangraphs.

Not accusing you of lying, just a funny Freudian slip.   

As to BB-ref vs. Fangraphs WAR, they both have their pluses and minuses.  fWAR for pitchers relies very heavily on FIP and that too often leads to results I can’t abide like Ubaldo allegedly having significant positive value for the Orioles.   fWAR for position players uses UZR instead of Rdrs to factor into the defensive component of WAR - those two stats don’t always agree and I don’t necessarily think one is better than another.  I think (but I’m not sure) that fWAR for catchers weights framing more heavily than Bb-ref does.   Overall, I tend to use Bb-ref because I like the way their data is organized better, but I’m not saying it’s version of WAR is better, just different.  
 

[Tony-OH]

11 hours ago, Philip said:

I don’t move the decimal on purpose, I just misplace it. I’m not at all being deceptive, and you should know that. What’s the point or purpose of lying, especially when anyone can look it up?

Regarding WAR, I know that BB and Fangraphs are different, but as long as I use the same one for comparison purposes(and I always use fangraphs) it shouldn't make any difference. I prefer using fangraphs.

You should use rWAR like 99.9% of the rest of the baseball community. I know they've gotten closer, but any WAR that ranks Heim at over 1 WAR with his 87 OPS+, -1rotot, 24% CS in just 54 games really has to be scrutinized. 

As for Heim, I'd be fine with him as a backup but he's on his 3rd team since being traded away. 

[HowAboutThat]

35 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:

You should use rWAR like 99.9% of the rest of the baseball community. I know they've gotten closer, but any WAR that ranks Heim at over 1 WAR with his 87 OPS+, -1rotot, 24% CS in just 54 games really has to be scrutinized. 

As for Heim, I'd be fine with him as a backup but he's on his 3rd team since being traded away. 

Which one is rWAR?

[Il BuonO]

11 minutes ago, Philip said:

Which one is rWAR?

r for reference as in Baseball Reference.

[HowAboutThat]

32 minutes ago, Il BuonO said:

r for reference as in Baseball Reference.

All right, I would’ve expected bWAR.