2022 MLB Draft Discussion (Use this thread to discuss all picks, not Orioles picks)

[RZNJ]

20 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Whoa, whoa, whoa!  From May 27:

 

Wow!  You either have a great memory or you are seriously demented!   lol

[RZNJ]

27 minutes ago, Frobby said:

It is absolutely to the Orioles’ advantage to have the top guys thinking that the O’s don’t have a clear preference at no. 1. They don’t want their top choice thinking the O’s are so desperate to take him that they’ll pay any price.  It’s Negotiation 101.   Now, do the O’s actually have a clear preference at no. 1?   I have no idea, and we may never know.   We certainly won’t know until after the pick is made, if then.  

Whoever they take will be said to be their numero uno Choice.  Book it!

[Frobby]

2 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Wow!  You either have a great memory or you are seriously demented!   lol

Well, I wrote it…

[RZNJ]

1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

I don't like comping any draft prospect to an inner circle hall of famer.

You're so serious today!   

[RZNJ]

Just now, Frobby said:

Well, I wrote it…

Ok. I stole it from you.  Haha.   I don't remember that comment but great minds think alike.   When I looked at your post I thought it was DocJJ who said it.

[RZNJ]

24 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

That's why I think Termarr in OPACY made the news.  And maybe a message to the others who also had a workout but not headlines.  (Of course, my tin foil hat may need an adjustment as well...)

Correct.  You usually don't find out about these things until after the draft.   Interesting that they weren't too secretive about this one.   

[Can_of_corn]

4 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

You're so serious today!   

It goes into the whole ridiculous expectations for prospects thing. 

 

[Frobby]

7 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Ok. I stole it from you.  Haha.   I don't remember that comment but great minds think alike.   When I looked at your post I thought it was DocJJ who said it.

Understandable, the way the quotes from other threads format.   I love the comp, though obviously it’s about 99% unlikely that Johnson will turn out as well as Morgan.  But it shows that being short and being a 2B can be overcome if the guy truly can hit like everyone says he can.   And I really like everything I’ve read about his personality and love of baseball.   

I’m going into the draft with an open mind.   The options at the top of the draft look really good.   We won’t know for years who turns out best, but I think there’s a really good chance that there will be several all star level players who emerge from the top 5 this year.   As Elias has said, it’s a good year to be picking no. 1.  
 

 

[RZNJ]

4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

It goes into the whole ridiculous expectations for prospects thing. 

 

OMG!   He bats LH.  He's short.  He's got power.  He plays 2B.   Joe Morgan.    Unreasonable expectations?   That's what the whole draft is about in every sport.   Every player is great until they step on the field and have to play against stronger competition than they've ever played against before.    The draft is about dreaming on guys.   Just read the reports on Johnson.   One scout called him a cross between Wade Boggs (plate discipline) and Vladimir Guerrero (bat to ball skills).   Crazy stuff but no one really expects anything like that.    If you read the press clippings on Johnson he's a .300 hitter with plate discipline, who can hit 25-30 homers a year, and play an average or better 2B.   Except for the stolen bases, that's Joe Effin Morgan!!!!    lol

[ShoelesJoe]

Does the Hangout still do polls these days? Be interesting to run two of them side by side: Who do you want the Orioles to draft at 1-1, and who do you expect the Orioles to draft at 1-1? 

[NelsonCruuuuuz]

2 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Does the Hangout still do polls these days? Be interesting to run two of them side by side: Who do you want the Orioles to draft at 1-1, and who do you expect the Orioles to draft at 1-1? 

Yes!!!

[Brooks The Great]

9 hours ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:

We have Westburg & Henderson at Norfolk. We need a premium SS. Mateo is great defensively but longer term…..

We should just be taking the best overall player, and we can't really be looking at a hole at SS that may or may not exist in 2 or 3 years. Henderson may turn out to be a good SS for a few years, or maybe Joey Ortiz's bat develops so that he's our SS. Or maybe we sign a SS in free agency.

Maybe Jackson Holliday turns out to be the best overall player in Elias' eyes. He'd fit the bill positionally. But I don't want to pass on Collier if he's the best overall hitter/player just because he doesn't play SS.

[OriolesMagic83]

Will Elias give more power/control to his assistants this year.  He sounded overwhelmed last year when talking about the draft and trade deadline being so close together.  I would be surprised if Elias is going to sleep more than 2 hours a night in July.  Elias seems like a control freak like Buck, where Buck was watching minor league games on his off days.  It sounded great at the time, but maybe he wasn't focusing on what was most important-the major league team.

[Frobby]

53 minutes ago, OriolesMagic83 said:

Will Elias give more power/control to his assistants this year.  He sounded overwhelmed last year when talking about the draft and trade deadline being so close together.  I would be surprised if Elias is going to sleep more than 2 hours a night in July.  Elias seems like a control freak like Buck, where Buck was watching minor league games on his off days.  It sounded great at the time, but maybe he wasn't focusing on what was most important-the major league team.

I don’t think we have much insight into how Elias runs the draft — I.e., is he the one making all the final calls?    He certainly seems to be more heavily involved in hands-on evaluation than Duquette, MacPhail and their predecessors.  He has made the same comment this year about the downsides of having the draft and trade deadline so close together, but not just in reference to himself, but the whole staff.  

[BohKnowsBmore]

On 6/19/2022 at 12:15 PM, DocJJ said:

HS #1 overall picks that did not do as well as predicted (even though some were sort of ok...) in past 25 years:

 

Delmon Young (although he sure had an all-time great Oriole hit!)

Tim Beckham 

Dansby Swanson (although he's doing well this year!)

Matt Bush (worst 1st pick ever, taken 1 pick in front of Justin Verlander).

Mickey Moniak - still early, but looking like a bust

Brady Aiken- another good option for worst 1st ever

 

There is an element of luck that can't be dismissed.   Let's pray to the baseball gods this year that whoever the O's take will be a stud!

 

 

Dansby Swanson was very much not a 1-1 pick out of HS. He went to Vandy and won Most outstanding Player in the CWS.