If Elias doesn't select Rutschman...what would your reaction be?

[DirtyBird]

1 hour ago, eddie83 said:

I may faint. 

ESPN was actually talking about baseball? And the draft? 

Hard to fathom.  

Looks like it is the SEC Network

[BohKnowsBmore]

2 hours ago, eddie83 said:

I may faint. 

ESPN was actually talking about baseball? And the draft? 

Hard to fathom.  

Probably had something to do with how this affected the Yankees, Red Sox or Lebron.

[ShoelesJoe]

12 hours ago, Cy Bundy said:

 

Rutschman's OBP now up to .582 after a walkathon weekend. He's got more walks in 49 games this year than Posey did in 68 games his Junior season. Not sure how much opposing teams pitched around Buster when he played for Florida State 11 years ago, but they're definitely doing so to Rutschman this season. Wonder what his stats would look like if they actually had to pitch to him. 

[Redskins Rick]

I dont care whom Elias picks, several in OH will be very unhappy.

[Luke-OH]

36 minutes ago, ShoelesJoe said:

Rutschman's OBP now up to .582 after a walkathon weekend. He's got more walks in 49 games this year than Posey did in 68 games his Junior season. Not sure how much opposing teams pitched around Buster when he played for Florida State 11 years ago, but they're definitely doing so to Rutschman this season. Wonder what his stats would look like if they actually had to pitch to him. 

Rutschman's OPS is currently 2nd best since the implementation of BBCOR bats after the 2010 season, behind Bren Spillane. His OBP is 1st, ahead of Keston Hiura. The funny thing is that Rutschman didn't have to perform like this to be in the conversation for 1-1, the tools and defensive value are enough that even if he was just having a good season rather than an all-time great season, he'd still be one of if not the top prospect. 

[Aglets]

Is it June 3rd yet?

[Redskins Rick]

12 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Rutschman's OPS is currently 2nd best since the implementation of BBCOR bats after the 2010 season, behind Bren Spillane. His OBP is 1st, ahead of Keston Hiura. The funny thing is that Rutschman didn't have to perform like this to be in the conversation for 1-1, the tools and defensive value are enough that even if he was just having a good season rather than an all-time great season, he'd still be one of if not the top prospect. 

Didnt Wieters tear up college and the minors?

Not trying to dump on Wieters, I enjoyed his time here, he just never provided the bat that was hyped.

 

[Luke-OH]

2 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

Didnt Wieters tear up college and the minors?

Not trying to dump on Wieters, I enjoyed his time here, he just never provided the bat that was hyped.

He did, he was very good statistically. The thing is, Rutschman is not having a good year, he's having one of the greatest seasons in college baseball history. 

Here's Wieters's Junior season triple slash.....358./480/.592, now here's Rutschman's .431/.581/.800

The kicker is Wieters did that with the old super bats, they implemented the BBCOR bats in 2011 which lowered offensive performance around college baseball significantly. 

[Redskins Rick]

2 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

He did, he was very good statistically. The thing is, Rutschman is not having a good year, he's having one of the greatest seasons in college baseball history. 

Here's Wieters's Junior season triple slash.....358./480/.592, now here's Rutschman's .431/.581/.800

The kicker is Wieters did that with the old super bats, they implemented the BBCOR bats in 2011 which lowered offensive performance around college baseball significantly. 

and his minor league OPS was up over 1.000 if I remember right.

[Luke-OH]

6 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:

and his minor league OPS was up over 1.000 if I remember right.

Yeah, Wieters not meeting the hype seemed to be a combination of his body wearing out and him performing in the minors more due to being really advanced as a hitter rather than having elite tools at the plate (this is complete hindsight, not insight I had at the time, wasn't following prospects in any way other than statistically at the time).

Here's another performance comparison. Joey Bart who went #2 overall in the 2018 draft, catcher out of Georgia Tech. .359/.471/.632 triple slash. Also not the defender that Rutschman is, Rutschman's recieving/framing is far better than Bart (although Bart is especially noted for his game calling abilities, but that's a hard thing to quantify). 

[WalkWithElias]

15 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

He did, he was very good statistically. The thing is, Rutschman is not having a good year, he's having one of the greatest seasons in college baseball history. 

Here's Wieters's Junior season triple slash.....358./480/.592, now here's Rutschman's .431/.581/.800

The kicker is Wieters did that with the old super bats, they implemented the BBCOR bats in 2011 which lowered offensive performance around college baseball significantly. 

This seems to be getting lost. Rarely a baseball prospect gets OMG Greatest EVER?!?! plaudits because baseball prospects flame out at such a high rate, so I get why most are cautious when discussing potential. But... is Rutschman the best catcher prospect of all time? Is he to catching what Strasburg was to pitching heading into a his draft? 

This board was hyped at the chances to draft Manny, Bundy, and Wieters, yet Rutschman seems to be a more sure-fire prospect than all three of them were. So yeah.. are we underselling him?

[Frobby]

40 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:

Rutschman's OPS is currently 2nd best since the implementation of BBCOR bats after the 2010 season, behind Bren Spillane. His OBP is 1st, ahead of Keston Hiura. The funny thing is that Rutschman didn't have to perform like this to be in the conversation for 1-1, the tools and defensive value are enough that even if he was just having a good season rather than an all-time great season, he'd still be one of if not the top prospect. 

“Behind Bren Spillane?”    THE Bren Spillane?    Translation: who????

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=spilla000bre

Oh, THAT Bren Spillane?    Well, there’s a total buzzkill.

[Redskins Rick]

3 minutes ago, WalkWithElias said:

This seems to be getting lost. Rarely a baseball prospect get OMG Greatest EVER?!?! plaudits because baseball prospects flame out at such a high rate, so I get why most are cautious when discusses potential. But... is Rutschman the best catcher prospect of all time? Is he to catching what Strasburg was to pitching heading into a his draft? 

This board was hyped at the chances to draft Manny, Bundy, and Wieters, yet Rutschman seems to be a more sure-fire prospect than all three of them were. So yeah.. are we underselling him?

Strasburg has had some very good WAR years in baseball and never posted a negative WAR.

I think he would have meet the hype, if not for TJ. IMO

[Redskins Rick]

1 minute ago, Frobby said:

“Behind Bren Spillane?”    THE Bren Spillane?    Translation: who????

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=spilla000bre

Oh, THAT Bren Spillane?    Well, there’s a total buzzkill.

related to Mickey Spillane?

[Luke-OH]

Just now, Frobby said:

“Behind Bren Spillane?”    THE Bren Spillane?    Translation: who????

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=spilla000bre

Oh, THAT Bren Spillane?    Well, there’s a total buzzkill.

That's why college stats aren't everything and track record is important. FWIW, Rutschman and Spillane's K/BB rates are pretty much flipped.