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2 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Well we just love the exchanges with you, Reezy.  Can't help it if you're the friendliest guy on here.  

I’m the Leo Durocher of OH.    

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Norby, Stowers, and Kimbrel and 11 million to pay for Kimbrel's salary.  I am tired of seeing Kimbrel.

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I’d likely give up Kjerstad for him. It would be a tough decision because I’m worried about Miller holding up physically. I’m not sure the As would want a 1 for 1 though.

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just because they are on MLB NET doesn't mean they have a clue about the Orioles talent..I wouldn't trade ANY of those three for Miller..NOT ONE.

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23 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Right.  Miller is the best closer in baseball right now.  He has 6 years of service time.  He has injury risk.   If we had him no one would even want to trade him and if someone from another fan board made that offer there would be mass hysteria.

If you have bases loaded and no outs and Miller comes in the game you don’t expect to score.  That’s how good he looks right now.

I’d like to see Miller pitch a full season before declaring him the best closer in baseball.  I get the “right now” part, but performance can vary a lot once arms aren’t so fresh.  So, we’ll see.

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7 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Small and scrappy?  Kinda sounds like David Eckstein to me.  

 

7 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

Small and scrappy?  Kinda sounds like David Eckstein to me.  

You disappoint me.  Durocher’s most famous line. “Nice guys finish last.”

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9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

I’d like to see Miller pitch a full season before declaring him the best closer in baseball.  I get the “right now” part, but performance can vary a lot once arms aren’t so fresh.  So, we’ll see.

Well, this is a hypothetical based on NOW.

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Just now, RZNJ said:

 

You disappoint me.  Durocher’s most famous line. “Nice guys finish last.”

Durocher said "“The nice guys are all over there. In seventh place.”

You're quoting a sportswriter that jazzed it up.

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18 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I don't think I'd trade Basallo/Mayo for Miller, but I also don't think I'd hesitate to put EBJ in a package.  

I understand your amplification on the matter, but I also think you're conveniently ignoring what Miller brings to the table.  Six years of control for a reliever like that, and you match him up with Bautista when he comes back...that's a lock down 8th and 9th inning.  You're essentially playing a 7 inning game at that point if you've got a lead.

It's 17 relief appearances but it's 17 appearances of 102 MPH.  He's striking out 2 batters every inning.  His WHIP is microscopic, he's barely walking anyone.

I get your viewpoint but being over the top about it isn't helping your cause.

There are 4 prospects I don’t really want to trade. I can be talked into trading any of them but it would take deals that aren’t likely available…Holliday, Mayo, Basallo and DeLeon.

Everyone else is on the table for Miller for me..and that includes Kjerstad although he’s barely a prospect at this point.

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3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

 

You disappoint me.  Durocher’s most famous line. “Nice guys finish last.”

Well I don't know what kind of race you're running on here.  IMO, this is a place to talk about baseball, have some fun, make a few jokes and learn stuff.  I'm not sure who's finishing last around here, but you do you.

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Just now, Sports Guy said:

There are 4 prospects I don’t really want to trade. I can be talked into trading any of them but it would take deals that aren’t likely available…Holliday, Mayo, Basallo and DeLeon.

Everyone else is on the table for Miller for me..and that includes Kjerstad although he’s barely a prospect at this point.

I'd drive HK to the airport for Miller.

I didn't realize you were so high on DeLeon.  How come?

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I'd drive HK to the airport for Miller.

I didn't realize you were so high on DeLeon.  How come?

High Ks, low walks, misses bats (needs to improve on this but still good), doesn’t give up homers and gets a ton of GBs..and young.

Maybe he goes up the ladder and makes my take on him look foolish but for me, right now, he’s our best pitching prospect and has a big ceiling.

Obviously he’s way below the other 3 in terms of not wanting to trade him. A better way to say it may be that he is the “other guy” I want to trade the least and would do what I can to make sure we keep him.

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Coby Mayo’s odds of being a significant contributor this year?   10%?  20%?

Enrique Bradfield.  .0009%

Mason Miller for this year, 50% or better.

Coby Mayo’s odds of being an all-star caliber player during his career.   30-50%.

Enrique Bradfield - 10-30%

Mason Miller - 50% or better

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23 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I don't think I'd trade Basallo/Mayo for Miller, but I also don't think I'd hesitate to put EBJ in a package.  

I understand your amplification on the matter, but I also think you're conveniently ignoring what Miller brings to the table.  Six years of control for a reliever like that, and you match him up with Bautista when he comes back...that's a lock down 8th and 9th inning.  You're essentially playing a 7 inning game at that point if you've got a lead.

It's 17 relief appearances but it's 17 appearances of 102 MPH.  He's striking out 2 batters every inning.  His WHIP is microscopic, he's barely walking anyone.

I get your viewpoint but being over the top about it isn't helping your cause.

Bautista isn’t even Bautista with 6 years of control. So now we’re expecting Miller to be Bautista plus healthy for 6 years?

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35 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

The Yankees or any other team could go quantity and beat it.   Jasson Dominguez, Roderick Arias, and a pitching prospect.

The Dodgers could put something together.

The Dodgers don't really have any top tier prospects. Yes Dominguez is around the tier prospect that Mayo is, but he is currently injured.

If the Dodgers don't have to surrender any top level prospects and can trade from depth, we should be able to do that as well.

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3 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:

I'd drive HK to the airport for Miller.

I didn't realize you were so high on DeLeon.  How come?

Good chance Mayo plays RF or 1B eventually.   Are you convinced he’s going to be significantly better than Kjerstad?  If so, why?

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