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If Callis' report is correct, i can't imagine he will turn it down.

He'd be nuts to. I contend he'll be an Oriole and then after the euphoria dies down the the question I'll have is - did Boras so emasculate MacPhail and the Orioles in negotiations that Wieters is the last big bonus Boras client the Orioles ever draft. I think he's signed and we'll won't have the pleasure (and benefit of the talent Boras hooks) of going through this again.

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He'd be nuts to. I contend he'll be an Oriole and then after the euphoria dies down the the question I'll have is - did Boras so emasculate MacPhail and the Orioles in negotiations that Wieters is the last big bonus Boras client the Orioles ever draft. I think he's signed and we'll won't have the pleasure (and benefit of the talent Boras hooks) of going through this again.

I think exactly the opposite is true. There's been no panic or hysteria from the FO. I think this has been a process involving to steely negotiators who will deal with each other when it's in their interest to do so. No problem whatsoever.

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He'd be nuts to. I contend he'll be an Oriole and then after the euphoria dies down the the question I'll have is - did Boras so emasculate MacPhail and the Orioles in negotiations that Wieters is the last big bonus Boras client the Orioles ever draft. I think he's signed and we'll won't have the pleasure (and benefit of the talent Boras hooks) of going through this again.

Sounds dead on to me. But this is a step towards working with him on FAs in the future...which is good. We'll need to.

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He'd be nuts to. I contend he'll be an Oriole and then after the euphoria dies down the the question I'll have is - did Boras so emasculate MacPhail and the Orioles in negotiations that Wieters is the last big bonus Boras client the Orioles ever draft. I think he's signed and we'll won't have the pleasure (and benefit of the talent Boras hooks) of going through this again.

Well, if we did offer 8 million, that is in line with the other top talents.

We basically gave Arrieta what he wanted but his leverage was better than Wieters IMO.

So, all in all, i don't think the Orioles really screwed themselves(if Callis is correct and Wieters signs). Maybe this is just what it would have taken.

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I think exactly the opposite is true. There's been no panic or hysteria from the FO. I think this has been a process involving to steely negotiators who will deal with each other when it's in their interest to do so. No problem whatsoever.

It'll depend on whatever the final number is. Everytime I see a new report it seems like the O's have raised their number. It just seems to me that Boras is slowly getting what he wants. But it is true that I have no idea what is accurate. But I do think the calculus in the future is going to be that Rowell type talent at $2-3m is a much, much better investment than Wieters type talent is if it takes $8m or more.

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Don't they need a signed physical form done as well when they submit the contracts to MLB? Thought I read that somewhere about 12 pages back in this thread! If so, they need to get agreement right about now and have an MD there to do the physical. Too late in the day to fly him somewhere. Unless the contract states it applies even without him passing a physical. Can't see Uncle Peter going for that clause though.:rolleyes:

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He'd be nuts to. I contend he'll be an Oriole and then after the euphoria dies down the the question I'll have is - did Boras so emasculate MacPhail and the Orioles in negotiations that Wieters is the last big bonus Boras client the Orioles ever draft. I think he's signed and we'll won't have the pleasure (and benefit of the talent Boras hooks) of going through this again.
So, now I've heard<ul><li>that SIGNING HIM will prevent future Boras dealings (due to Andy being castrated), AND...

<li> that NOT SIGNING HIM will do the same thing (due to Boras having a snit).</ul> So, evidently, no-matter how this turns out, we'll never ever have to deal with Boras again. Sounds like a win-win to me. So, cheer up, bucko!

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