Deadline Deal Orioles Mega-Thread

[sportsfan8703]

1 minute ago, ISU94 said:

But seriously, Buehler/Stewart/Ruiz for an elite closer with control past this season is not too much. Buehler is great but Stewart I don't think has ever touched top prospect lists and Ruiz could but if he does it's more so that he's a catcher than anything. I just don't love the value of catchers unless you think they are one of the elites like a Salvy/Posey type.

I agree.  I don't see Britton getting dealt before 7/31.  The dodgers are bidding against themselves right now.  The other relievers getting dealt don't really effect Britton because he's in a different league.  Elite.  

[Lucky_13]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

I agree.  I don't see Britton getting dealt before 7/31.  The dodgers are bidding against themselves right now.  The other relievers getting dealt don't really effect Britton because he's in a different league.  Elite.  

I'm not sure the Dodgers are bidding against themselves. I imagine the same teams in on Wilson are in on Britton

[ISU94]

1 minute ago, Lucky_13 said:

I'd do that deal just to get Buehler and Stewart. Instant rotation makeover 

Honestly, I think I take that deal as well. Buehler is a top 18 prospect on BP's updated list, Stewart may not be on lists but I do think he can be a very good #3/#4 type and he's ready right now. Then we get an upside spect in Ruiz who is mashing so far this year and could be one of our better prospects in the not so distant future. I think that is actually a good package. Haven't heard that one til now, but I'd be down. Definitely don't think that's too much though personally.

[ISU94]

2 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

I agree.  I don't see Britton getting dealt before 7/31.  The dodgers are bidding against themselves right now.  The other relievers getting dealt don't really effect Britton because he's in a different league.  Elite.  

As Lucky said, I don't think they're bidding against themselves. Word is the Cubs are very interested, Houston has been linked as has Washington. Hell, an industry source said the Cubs are the favorites. So they definitely have competition.

[sportsfan8703]

So PA just gave DD the green light to trade some relievers.  Is there a point where he would take that back?  2 GB of the WC?

[ISU94]

Just now, sportsfan8703 said:

So PA just gave DD the green light to trade some relievers.  Is there a point where he would take that back?  2 GB of the WC?

I can't imagine he would, but if we continually get 5-7 IP with 2 ER or less each game for the next couple weeks I'd imagine it would make them think a little. Considering Miley, Ubaldo, Guasman (have hope but he's been so poor this year), and Tillman (ups and downs) are in the rotation I don't see that as possible.

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, sportsfan8703 said:

So PA just gave DD the green light to trade some relievers.  Is there a point where he would take that back?  2 GB of the WC?

If they get close enough does Dan change his mind?

[sportsfan8703]

5 minutes ago, phillyOs119 said:

I understand that point of view and I hope you are right.  I'm just concerned that they look at Britton's price tag (if we ask for what I'm suggesting or other big potential returns listed here) and say "well we can get X player for less and he's almost as good".

 

Kieboom is good enough to be the centerpiece for Wilson.

Wilson just blew a big save last night in a "big game" atmosphere.  Detroit might be trying to get rid of him before he blows another one.  

[Luke-OH]

Some O's related chat questions from MLBtraderumors.

 

Baltimore Chop

3:00

Brad Brach would get a better return then David Phelps?

 

Jeffrey Todd

3:00

Similar, but you could argue for Brach f'sho.

 

TheRealIan

3:03

Robles for Britton, who says no

 

Jeffrey Todd

3:04

With his health uncertainty and iffy performance thus far? No way the Nats do that.

 

Cheery O's

3:04

The O's trade Britton to _______ for _______?

 

Jeffrey Todd

3:05

I like the fit with the Dodgers, who can afford to take a risk here. I still don't know just how much value they'll give back, but I expect Britton to come  at a discount as against what we'd have expected him to command in a deadline scenario entering the season.

 

[sportsfan8703]

Just now, Can_of_corn said:

If they get close enough does Dan change his mind?

Of course.  Out of curiosity, what would change your mind?  1 game lead in WC spot?

[sportsfan8703]

Just now, phillyOs119 said:

Some O's related chat questions from MLBtraderumors.

 

TheRealIan

3:03

Robles for Britton, who says no

 

Jeffrey Todd

3:04

With his health uncertainty and iffy performance thus far? No way the Nats do that.

 

 

 

This guy.  Iffy performance?  1.80 ERA

[ArtVanDelay]

3 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

This guy.  Iffy performance?  1.80 ERA

You think teams care about ERA?

1.73 WHIP and 6.6 K/9.  Both terrible.  SSS obviously. 

[Can_of_corn]

8 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:

Of course.  Out of curiosity, what would change your mind?  1 game lead in WC spot?

Divisional lead.

[sportsfan8703]

8 minutes ago, ArtVanDelay said:

You think teams care about ERA?

1.73 WHIP and 6.6 K/9.  Both terrible.  SSS obviously. 

1.6 WHIP if you remove what Joseph and Giovetella did last night.  

[Ohfan67]

Sadly most trades kind of end up being meaningless. Even getting two top 50 prospects may have little impact. In 2007, for example, Billy Rowell and Felix Pie were both top 50.  Not trying to be a party pooper, but couldn't help but think about how pie-in-the-sky some trades can be (pun intended in this case).*

 

*and yes, I know the O's didn't trade for Pie in 2007, just noticed that he and Rowell were both ranked top 50 BA in 2007. All that glitters is not gold.