Max Wagner 2023

[RZNJ]

Time for a day off.  He needs a mental breather.

[glenn__davis]

23 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

Time for a day off.  He needs a mental breather.

Meh. They've played 5 games. 

[Frobby]

Wagner has a hit tonight, and has reached on a sac bunt error.  

[SpOkane]

Deuces wild last night. 2-2 w/ 2 BBs and 2 SBs. Played 2b & 3b as well. Now, slashing a new & improved .128/.234/.154.

[Frobby]

Wagner seems to be coming around a bit, though he’s probably never going to be a high BA guy.  In his last 8 games he’s hit .258/.395/.613 with 3 bombs.  Overall his slash line is still a lowly .180/.300/.350, but things are trending in the right direction after he started the season 0 for 20.   

[Mooreisbetter27]

9 minutes ago, Frobby said:

Wagner seems to be coming around a bit, though he’s probably never going to be a high BA guy.  In his last 8 games he’s hit .258/.395/.613 with 3 bombs.  Overall his slash line is still a lowly .180/.300/.350, but things are trending in the right direction after he started the season 0 for 20.   

I don’t care what the batting average is if a guy has an obp .137 higher that that.

Thats prob not true… but that’s a really nice obp to average ratio regardless. 

[SemperFi]

7 minutes ago, Mooreisbetter27 said:

I don’t care what the batting average is if a guy has an obp .137 higher that that.

Thats prob not true… but that’s a really nice obp to average ratio regardless. 

Especially when those walks and up on second base (10 steals).

[btdart20]

1 hour ago, Frobby said:

Wagner seems to be coming around a bit, though he’s probably never going to be a high BA guy.  In his last 8 games he’s hit .258/.395/.613 with 3 bombs.  Overall his slash line is still a lowly .180/.300/.350, but things are trending in the right direction after he started the season 0 for 20.   

They had him hitting lead off the other day. Not sure if that’s a regular thing  or a kickstart thing but that’s not what I envisioned when he was drafted.

[RZNJ]

17 minutes ago, btdart20 said:

They had him hitting lead off the other day. Not sure if that’s a regular thing  or a kickstart thing but that’s not what I envisioned when he was drafted.

That doesn't mean much.   He's a power-hitting 3B, hopefully.

[SemperFi]

50 minutes ago, RZNJ said:

That doesn't mean much.   He's a power-hitting 3B, hopefully.

With baserunning skills evidently.  The only positive I saw in evaluations was "fringy speed" yet he is on pace to steal 40-50 bases.

[RZNJ]

Just now, SemperFi said:

With baserunning skills evidently.  The only positive I saw in evaluations was "fringy speed" yet he is on pace to steal 40-50 bases.

Some guys have a knack for stealing bases but he could also be taking better advantage of the pitch clock and pickoff rules than most.

[btdart20]

1 hour ago, RZNJ said:

That doesn't mean much.   He's a power-hitting 3B, hopefully.

Yeah that’s what I’m thinking too.  I think they are helping him get better pitches to see.  
 

As for his steals, it seems A ball tends to run more than higher levels.

[SemperFi]

2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

Some guys have a knack for stealing bases but he could also be taking better advantage of the pitch clock and pickoff rules than most.

Yes, and as BDart notes A ball pitching and catching provides base stealing opportunities that are more pronounced than at higher levels.  I get that he is in more of a "table setter" role than in college but he has never stolen more than two bases a season-now on pace for 40-50.  I just find it quite bizarre that I couldn't find one evaluation that listed base running as a plus!!  

[AnythingO's]

The highlighted column is for Speed (base running skill) from Fangraphs. Wagner isn't hitting yet but he is 2nd in the league out of 88 qualified players so yeah base running is a plus.

1	Mike Jarvis	PIT	A+	25	105	9.5%	19.0%	0.50	.217	.314	.489	.803	.272	9.3	.212	1.5	16	1.3	.357	109
2	Max Wagner	BAL	A+	21	120	11.7%	27.5%	0.42	.180	.300	.350	.650	.170	9.0	.215	0.6	13	-3.8	.304	77
3	Terrell Tatum	CHW	A+	23	123	19.5%	25.2%	0.77	.305	.450	.495	.945	.189	8.9	.435	1.0	26	9.6	.436	158
4	Spencer Jones	NYY	A+	22	111	6.3%	35.1%	0.18	.275	.315	.588	.904	.314	8.9	.373	0.7	19	4.1	.386	127
5	Eddinson Paulino	BOS	A+	20	118	6.8%	19.5%	0.35	.248	.305	.385	.690	.138	8.9	.298	1.8	14	-2.5	.317	84
6	Loidel Chapelli	CHW	A+	21	102	16.7%	24.5%	0.68	.268	.412	.488	.900	.220	8.7	.352	0.4	20	6.0	.412	143
7	Jaylen Palmer	NYM	A+	22	105	14.3%	34.3%	0.42	.216	.333	.330	.663	.114	8.6	.346	1.3	12	-2.2	.317	85
8	Kevin Kilpatrick Jr.	ATL	A+	22	135	17.8%	28.1%	0.63	.215	.366	.374	.740	.159	8.4	.299	-0.2	19	1.1	.351	106
9	Drew Gilbert	HOU	A+	22	95	6.3%	22.1%	0.29	.360	.421	.686	1.107	.326	8.3	.424	0.5	24	11.2	.483	186
10	Jordy Barley	WSN	A+	23	83	10.8%	31.3%	0.35	.250	.325	.403	.728	.153	8.2	.362	0.9	11	-0.8	.331	93
11	Aaron Palensky	NYY	A+	24	92	9.8%	21.7%	0.45	.333	.413	.728	1.141	.395	8.2	.346	1.1	24	11.3	.490	191
12	Tsung-Che Cheng	PIT	A+	21	115	16.5%	16.5%	1.00	.274	.395	.547	.942	.274	8.1	.306	-1.0	23	7.4	.418	147
13	Dru Baker	TBR	A+	23	103	9.7%	28.2%	0.34	.311	.388	.411	.799	.100	8.1	.443	2.3	17	2.7	.373	119
14	Alexander Vargas	NYY	A+	21	103	8.7%	28.2%	0.31	.258	.330	.495	.825	.237	8.0	.322	-0.1	16	2.2	.367	115
15	Frederick Bencosme	BAL	A+	20	92	15.2%	16.3%	0.93	.240	.363	.360	.723	.120	8.0	.295	0.5	13	0.1	.344	101

[Triple Crown]

Looks like Wagner is getting his legs. In May 286/412/619 with 4 HR's could be turning the hot corner