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    • Angelos did fight the relocation.  He voted against, lobbied against it, withheld permission to adjust TV territories, and threatened to sue if not fairly compensated.  As long as the team was compensated for the loss of broadcast exclusivity, I don’t think he had any other case. From all reports, he drove a hard bargain and it took like 9 months to negotiate a compensation and settlement agreement. There was a wide discrepancy among various parties about what constituted just compensation with Angelos taking more pessimistic views of the impact of the Nats franchise and less optimistic view on MASN. Also, MASN was in perpetuity not temporary.  In hindsight, MASN probably didn’t provide the revenue protection intended because of how the dispute played out and how the RSN market collapsed, but that’s in hindsight. Overall, Angelos “won” the MASN dispute (at least the RSDC process) more than he lost it - the Nationals advocated for rights fees intentionally designed to bankrupt MASN but the RSDC didn’t use their comps. Overall, I think it’s fair to say that relocating a team to DC has hurt the Baltimore club’s market size and ability to fund a top-10 payroll.   HOWEVER, had the Nats not come to DC, the specter of an Orioles relocation to DC would have been hanging over our heads especially as Peter’s health declined, the stadium aged, and the lease approached. Peter would never have moved, but are we sure JA would turn down a higher offer of say $2.3BN offer from Ted Leonsis or someone with the intent to move the club to DC? I think as an Orioles fan it’s probably best to have another team in DC than have to worry about the Orioles ever relocating there.
    • Everything revolves around the health of the player. I think Gunnar has more. I think the collision with Mateo set Gunnar back and affected him in ways we will never know. I'm no mind specialist but Gunnar is young plays all out, and that had to bother him. I've watched that collision a number of times. No fault - just two players going all out and one is finished for the year. It just so happened that Gunnar got the yips and his batting went south soon thereafter. Maybe a coincidence but I think we will see a rejuvenated Gunnar next year and all stops are off. 
    • I’m not so sure the bolded part is true. I think a lot of that last bit can have to do with small skills: situational hitting/running, above average play in close games, generally things that can be boiled down to “luck.” I didn’t see this years team as having a major talent discrepancy from the 2023 version.
    • As great as Gunnar is can’t assume he matches last year. That said I like the odds of the team as a whole matching what we did. 
    • The real improvement of this team will come from within.    The 3-5 players they bring in from outside the org will supplement the roster…maybe put it over the top but the real improvement will come from those already in the org.
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