Keegan Akin 2021

[Philip]

2 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

Depends on the talent level.  So for Akin, it'll take quite awhile before I become a believer.  

 Fair enough, I still don’t understand why they never tried piggybacking him with a contrasting starter.

[Moose Milligan]

3 minutes ago, Philip said:

 Fair enough, I still don’t understand why they never tried piggybacking him with a contrasting starter.

That's fair and valid, but I think every team still wants a starter that can go 5 innings each night. 

[Can_of_corn]

5 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

I’ll never forget a story that ran on SC years ago about “fat” pitchers.  One guy they highlighted was Jon Lieber.  He talked about how the extra weight actually helped him during the season, especially late in the season. That you tend to lose weight as the year goes on and having the extra LBs can be beneficial.

A guy like Sabathia never really had issues.  
 

I personally think it’s one of those things that fans will point to as a scapegoat but they really have no idea what they are talking.

Now, the other side to that is what RZ just mentioned and that is strength in the legs.  That needs to be there.  I can’t imagine that Akin was with the team for most of the year and the trainer wasn’t working with him.  Otoh, maybe he was lazy in the offseason and it took a few months to get him up to speed and now, we are seeing the improvement because of that.

End of the day, these guys should be in good shape but being a husky guy in the mound doesn’t mean much.  You can still be a good pitcher and have that extra weight.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27314802/knee-pain-always-least-8-10

 

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Yankees pitcher CC Sabathia, on the injured list for the third time this season, says the pain in his surgically repaired right knee has been constant for five years.

"It's always the same. If I had to scale it on a scale of one to 10, it's always an eight and when it's bad it's 10," he said Saturday.

I know I feel less strain on my knees than I did 80 pounds ago.

[Sports Guy]

2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/27314802/knee-pain-always-least-8-10

 

I know I feel less strain on my knees than I did 80 pounds ago.

You also aren’t a pro athlete constantly training and working out.  

[Can_of_corn]

1 minute ago, Sports Guy said:

You also aren’t a pro athlete constantly training and working out.  

Are you actually suggesting that his weight didn't have an impact on his history of knee injuries?

The man used to eat Captain Crunch by the box.

[Sports Guy]

14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Are you actually suggesting that his weight didn't have an impact on his history of knee injuries?

The man used to eat Captain Crunch by the box.

Who knows.  Considering I’m not his doctor or him, I wouldn’t know.

I think it’s foolish to assume anything without knowing all the facts.

[Can_of_corn]

3 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Who knows.  Considering I’m not his doctor or him, I wouldn’t know.

I think it’s foolish to assume anything without knowing all the facts.

I think it's foolish to think that weighing 300 pounds isn't going to put increased stress on one's knees.

They can measure it. 

[Sports Guy]

13 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

I think it's foolish to think that weighing 300 pounds isn't going to put increased stress on one's knees.

They can measure it. 

Increased stress?  Sure that’s possible/likely.

But the cause of constant pain?  No way to know that.

 

[Philip]

3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:

That's fair and valid, but I think every team still wants a starter that can go 5 innings each night. 

Yeah, and I want a pony…

[Can_of_corn]

47 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

Increased stress?  Sure that’s possible/likely.

But the cause of constant pain?  No way to know that.

 

Good thing I didn't say anything like that.

 

[Sports Guy]

17 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

Good thing I didn't say anything like that.

 

No but you quoted something referencing his consistent pain.

I don’t think his weight had much to do with it.  Not saying it helped but doubt it hurt him that much.  Once you injure your knees, especially when you are putting the stress on them The way athletes do, they don’t get “good” again.

[Moose Milligan]

34 minutes ago, Philip said:

Yeah, and I want a pony…

Well that explains a lot about you, homie.  

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On 9/23/2021 at 10:01 AM, Can_of_corn said:

It's easy to say that but who knows what type of shambling corpses are going to be out there fighting for rotation spots next spring.

Shamblin' corpses,

Ramblin' rose!