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During the AA playoffs before they were eliminated, Chris Tillman took a ball off the right arm hit by Matt LaPorta. Very little was reported on it, which would give me the impression it wasn't much. Because of the injury, several guys over at Project Prospect erroneously thought it was a mechanics injury and studied tapes of Tillman's delivery. They noticed that Chris Tillman's delivery is similar to Chris Carpenter's delivery, which could lead to injury problems down the road, as they did for Carpenter.

Is this true what they are saying and has it been addressed by the Orioles?

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Thats an interesting analysis, comparing the deliveries.

But he's a pitcher and all pitchers are going to have an injury sooner or later. The human arm isn't built for what a ML pitcher puts it through, unless you're a genetic freak like Nolan Ryan.

IMO, the real question is will he have arm problems over and over again? Or will he have his eventual Tommy John and be done with it?

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That isn't really an inverted L. A slight elbow bend in his motion, but nothing that should be throwing up serious red flags a la Aaron Crow. The concern is his arm lagging behind the rest of his body. That probably won't lead to elbow trouble, but it could be a potential shoulder/labrum issue down the road. Still, he's not Crow bad, not even Carpenter bad.

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During the AA playoffs before they were eliminated, Chris Tillman took a ball off the right arm hit by Matt LaPorta. Very little was reported on it, which would give me the impression it wasn't much. Because of the injury, several guys over at Project Prospect erroneously thought it was a mechanics injury and studied tapes of Tillman's delivery. They noticed that Chris Tillman's delivery is similar to Chris Carpenter's delivery, which could lead to injury problems down the road, as they did for Carpenter.

Is this true what they are saying and has it been addressed by the Orioles?

Is he a pitcher?

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Thats an interesting analysis, comparing the deliveries.

But he's a pitcher and all pitchers are going to have an injury sooner or later. The human arm isn't built for what a ML pitcher puts it through, unless you're a genetic freak like Nolan Ryan.

IMO, the real question is will he have arm problems over and over again? Or will he have his eventual Tommy John and be done with it?

Maybe Tillman should work at a Ranch in the offseason, like Nolan Ryan. Problem Solved!

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All the more reason to stockpile as many pitchers as possible.

If you know he's an injury risk, why hang onto him when he can get you a young IFer that isn't as much of an injury risk and fills a greater need?

The Orioles need to be identifying which pitchers they think will succeed and stay healthy and keep those and ship the others out before they get hurt or suffer a performance decline and their trade value drops.

Daniel Cabrera and Hayden Penn are two good examples of pitchers the Orioles should have dealt while their stock was high. Beane knew when to deal Mulder. The Orioles need to learn when to fish or cut bait with their pitchers.

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